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From: Joerg on 17 May 2010 11:40 D Yuniskis wrote: > Hi Joerg, > > Joerg wrote: [...] >> Works like a champ. Unless it has a hang-up but that it does no matter >> what it's connected to (HP forgot a reset button). The big office > > HP is brain damaged when it comes to user interfaces. > I have no clue as to what the two buttons on my 6P do. > I know when something goes wrong (out of paper, jam, etc.) > I invariably push the *wrong* button and end up having > to resend the job :( > With the 5L the drill is to pull the power cord, count 3-5 seconds, plug back in. It hangs up a lot. The Brother multifunction hangs up only once every 1-2 months. >> printer is directly on the LAN and that's how it should nowadays be. > > Yup. Especially as it is *so* commonplace to have multiple > machines nowadays. > >>> So, I connect it to my bastion host (which serves as my >>> local DNS, NTP, TFTP, BOOTP, xfs, HTTP, FTP, etc. server). >>> I.e., the "print server" functionality is "free" -- since >>> all those other services need to be running, anyway... >> >> Other than the work computers here there's nothing that must run all >> day/night. In the evening everything is powered off unless I need to >> run a major SPICE simulation. > > Some machine here is always doing *something*. E.g., > make world, render 3D model, etc. It's just easier to > leave the bastion host up 24/7 and work to reduce its > power consumption. The little "shoebox PC" uses a laptop > drive so saves there -- but pisses away any savings by > running a P4 :-/ > Would be better if you had something with an Intel Atom in there. Those are quite slow but my li'l Samsung NC10 gets over 8h out of one charge because of it. >>> I don't tether any printers directly to a specific machine >>> (well, that's a little lie... the color inkjets are hardwired >>> to my multimedia workstation -- but nothing else *needs* >>> to talk to those) as doing so would force that machine to >>> be up and running *just* to use the printer. :-/ (I have >>> probably 6 or 7 printers that see different kinds of use >>> from different machines, etc.) >> >> 6-7 printer? Yikes. Time to part with some? > > I have the 6P for "one off" prints -- this is what sees > the most use (in terms of print *jobs*, not *volume*). > It's relatively low power, quiet, etc. > > I keep a 4M+ w/duplexer for big runs -- like when I want > to print a manual (duplexer helps cut down on paper use). > > I have three color inkjets (only one of which is networked) > that I typically use for art, near-photo ready artwork, etc. > All are wide formats (I think the narrowest is 11" and the > widest is 17"?). > > I have a "postcard" printer for color photographs (I think > 4x6"?). > > A color laser for proofing manuals. > > And two color phasers (solid ink) for "prerelease" manual pages > (i.e., something that rivals what a printshop would produce). > > Hmmm... I guess that's *9* printers :< > Wow, lots of toys. But if you guys are doing arts stuff that's understandable. > The phasers will find their way to recycling once I run > out of ink -- too damn expensive! (and, they are large > machines -- probably twice the volume of an LJ3) But, > they smell really cool when they are running! :> That's the bane of all ink printers. Plus the ink dries up way too fast in the hot summers out here. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Joerg on 17 May 2010 11:45 Joel Koltner wrote: > "Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message > news:85d50kF7laU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> Yes, it's almost to the point where you'd better buy an exact same box >> again so you have a spare. Probably best to configure and then store. >> Else, if this box croaks your whole system will be dead in the water. >> If your phones run through this I'd definitely have a spare. > > I'm thinking that's a very smart idea... I do have individual spare > components (DSL modem, routers, etc.) that could be pressed into > service, but we're definitely talking some hours of, "let me > remember/figure out how to get everything hooked up/configured again" > rather than just "swap the box with this identical one and call it good." > Yup. BT: Wife called (we have a regular landline) and said her email is on the fritz. A minor challenge was the fact that I was about 2000 miles away in a hotel ... > The phone system does run through this, although at least there cell > phones are a good backup. > Cell phones are a good backup but it doesn't help when people call your regular number and leave a few important messages that you can no longer retrieve. I hope your web based phone company has at least some sort of "dial-in" access so you can listen to voice mails with a cell phone. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 17 May 2010 11:45 Joel Koltner wrote: > > "Nico Coesel" <nico(a)puntnl.niks> wrote in message > news:4bf159f5.2008126656(a)news.planet.nl... > > This actually makes a lot of sense. From my experience as a system > > administrator I must say that seperating functions helps stability a > > lot. Especially back in the NT4 days. Having 20 people do nothing can > > cost more than $3k per day. > > Well there's a good argument for switching to Linux... :-) > > If you really feel the need to use separate machines, perhaps you could at > least use good quality, stable-but-inexpensive machines? A $500 or even $1k > desktop rather than a fancy $3k rack-mount PC gives you $2500 with which you > can buy an awful lot of electricity... Or buy a used server: http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?id=856143& -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
From: Joel Koltner on 17 May 2010 11:48 "D Yuniskis" <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote in message news:hsrnlj$16q$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > Joel Koltner wrote: >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856101079&cm_re=shuttle_x27-_-56-101-079-_-Product > What sort of power consumption? The power adapter is only good to 60W, so I'd guess that typically it's probably more like 30W or less -- probably under 20W just idling. With a dual-core Atom CPU, it's noticeably slow if you're trying to do, e.g., SPICE simulations on it, but for web surfing, word processing, etc. -- what my mother uses it for -- it's plenty snappy. > Ha! I'd have asked *him* how *he* was going to fix it! :> He's a retired chemistry professor... I don't think he knows how. :-)
From: D Yuniskis on 17 May 2010 12:02
Hi Joerg, >>> Works like a champ. Unless it has a hang-up but that it does no >>> matter what it's connected to (HP forgot a reset button). The big office >> >> HP is brain damaged when it comes to user interfaces. >> I have no clue as to what the two buttons on my 6P do. >> I know when something goes wrong (out of paper, jam, etc.) >> I invariably push the *wrong* button and end up having >> to resend the job :( > > With the 5L the drill is to pull the power cord, count 3-5 seconds, plug > back in. It hangs up a lot. The Brother multifunction hangs up only once > every 1-2 months. Well, usually whatever button I end up pushing *cancels* the job (since most jobs that it sees are just single pages, this is pretty easy to do, I guess). It's only annoying because the printer is in another room (so i have to walk back and resubmit the job, etc.) >>> printer is directly on the LAN and that's how it should nowadays be. >> >> Yup. Especially as it is *so* commonplace to have multiple >> machines nowadays. >> >>>> So, I connect it to my bastion host (which serves as my >>>> local DNS, NTP, TFTP, BOOTP, xfs, HTTP, FTP, etc. server). >>>> I.e., the "print server" functionality is "free" -- since >>>> all those other services need to be running, anyway... >>> >>> Other than the work computers here there's nothing that must run all >>> day/night. In the evening everything is powered off unless I need to >>> run a major SPICE simulation. >> >> Some machine here is always doing *something*. E.g., >> make world, render 3D model, etc. It's just easier to >> leave the bastion host up 24/7 and work to reduce its >> power consumption. The little "shoebox PC" uses a laptop >> drive so saves there -- but pisses away any savings by >> running a P4 :-/ > > Would be better if you had something with an Intel Atom in there. Those > are quite slow but my li'l Samsung NC10 gets over 8h out of one charge > because of it. I wanted small, PCMCIA (for a wireless card, at that time), two network interfaces (at least one of which had to be gigabit), USB2 and DVD. And, a fair bit of "peak" processing capability (I avoid using "appliances" for these types of functions because I can't *add* stuff -- software -- to them) as I was also using it as a *host* at the time (i.e., talking to it with X terminals) I come across odd little machines pretty regularly so I don't worry too much about finding *the* solution but, instead, find *a* solution that works "for now"... >>>> I don't tether any printers directly to a specific machine >>>> (well, that's a little lie... the color inkjets are hardwired >>>> to my multimedia workstation -- but nothing else *needs* >>>> to talk to those) as doing so would force that machine to >>>> be up and running *just* to use the printer. :-/ (I have >>>> probably 6 or 7 printers that see different kinds of use >>>> from different machines, etc.) >>> >>> 6-7 printer? Yikes. Time to part with some? >> >> I have the 6P for "one off" prints -- this is what sees >> the most use (in terms of print *jobs*, not *volume*). >> It's relatively low power, quiet, etc. >> >> I keep a 4M+ w/duplexer for big runs -- like when I want >> to print a manual (duplexer helps cut down on paper use). >> >> I have three color inkjets (only one of which is networked) >> that I typically use for art, near-photo ready artwork, etc. >> All are wide formats (I think the narrowest is 11" and the >> widest is 17"?). >> >> I have a "postcard" printer for color photographs (I think >> 4x6"?). >> >> A color laser for proofing manuals. >> >> And two color phasers (solid ink) for "prerelease" manual pages >> (i.e., something that rivals what a printshop would produce). >> >> Hmmm... I guess that's *9* printers :< > > Wow, lots of toys. But if you guys are doing arts stuff that's > understandable. It's just "handy" to be able to print what you need without having to go off to a service bureau. E.g., I had to print some 16x34" signs the other day... >> The phasers will find their way to recycling once I run >> out of ink -- too damn expensive! (and, they are large >> machines -- probably twice the volume of an LJ3) But, >> they smell really cool when they are running! :> > > That's the bane of all ink printers. Plus the ink dries up way too fast > in the hot summers out here. Ah, the *advantage* to the phasers is they use *solid* ink. No "drying up" to worry about. OTOH, the inkjets are always a cause for worry: "When was the last time I used them? Should I run a quick page just to keep things 'moist'?" (they are all epsons so the printheads, once clogged, are a real nuisance) |