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From: D Yuniskis on 17 May 2010 12:06 Hi Joerg, Joerg wrote: > Yes, it's almost to the point where you'd better buy an exact same box > again so you have a spare. Probably best to configure and then store. > Else, if this box croaks your whole system will be dead in the water. If > your phones run through this I'd definitely have a spare. Exactly! Unless your configuration changes often (in which case, ask yourself "why"?), just build an exact duplicate ("cold spare") and hide it someplace. I.e., you should be able to swap it in and not know that anything has "changed". (this can often be a bit tricky to do as you'll want it to have the same IP as the original box which means having both of them "on line" while you are configuring the second will cause problems)
From: Joel Koltner on 17 May 2010 12:12 "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:c-2dnepDmtoq-WzWnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > Or buy a used server: > http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?id=856143& Wow, $99.99 & free shipping -- that is cheap!
From: D Yuniskis on 17 May 2010 12:27 Hi Joel, Joel Koltner wrote: >>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856101079&cm_re=shuttle_x27-_-56-101-079-_-Product >>> >> What sort of power consumption? > > The power adapter is only good to 60W, so I'd guess that typically it's > probably more like 30W or less -- probably under 20W just idling. Ah, I think the brick for this one is more like *120*W! Like I said... it feels like a catastrophe waiting to happen! The problem (IMO) is that it was designed to be a *complete* PC -- not an "appliance". And, since it was trying to be *tiny*, the idea of being able to ADD stuff to it (PCI cards) was not possible. So, *it* had to have EVERYTHING that you might *ever* need. So, it has 1600x1200x24 video, audio, firewire, USB, PCMCIA, IrDA (!), DVD-R/W (actually, i think I replaced the original drive with the writer :-/ ), etc. All of those things take power so... it's great when/if you need them but, when you don't, you can't just remove them! :( > With a dual-core Atom CPU, it's noticeably slow if you're trying to do, > e.g., SPICE simulations on it, but for web surfing, word processing, > etc. -- what my mother uses it for -- it's plenty snappy. This is more of a general purpose machine. E.g., 2.4GHz P4. It works great when you just want to talk to it with an X terminal (i.e., you save power on the "client" end) as you can do just about anything that you could on a "real" computer -- and in similar time. The problem is it doesn't know how to save power effectively when not needed. >> Ha! I'd have asked *him* how *he* was going to fix it! :> > > He's a retired chemistry professor... I don't think he knows how. :-) Ah, I guess they only teach those guys how to *break* things! :> (you don't often hear EXPLOSIONS coming out of EE labs!)
From: Michael A. Terrell on 17 May 2010 12:46 Joel Koltner wrote: > > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:c-2dnepDmtoq-WzWnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > > Or buy a used server: > > http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?id=856143& > > Wow, $99.99 & free shipping -- that is cheap! Not as cheap as the Dell 4350 I'm supposed to pick up for free, this weekend. It has 3, 35 GB hard drives, but the 'Server 2000' was deleted. I've been looking for something to play with Apache on, anyway. :) -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
From: D Yuniskis on 17 May 2010 13:05
Hi Michael, Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Joel Koltner wrote: >> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message >> news:c-2dnepDmtoq-WzWnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... >>> Or buy a used server: >>> http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?id=856143& >> Wow, $99.99 & free shipping -- that is cheap! > > Not as cheap as the Dell 4350 I'm supposed to pick up for free, this > weekend. Before you invest much time in it, give *all* of the boards a good "looking over" for bad caps, etc. I've seen lots of Dells with bad caps (including servers -- the 2500 is notorious for bad caps on the power sharing board) and, if someone is getting rid of a machine, I often question if it isn't, perhaps, because they were "having problems" > It has 3, 35 GB hard drives, but the 'Server 2000' was deleted. I've > been looking for something to play with Apache on, anyway. :) You can convert W2K to W2KS by carefully tweeking a few registry values (though I am not sure that gives you all of the *services* available in W2KS). Apache will run on damn near anything! Even an old desktop machine. |