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From: Joerg on 17 May 2010 09:33 Phil Hobbs wrote: > Joerg wrote: >> Nico Coesel wrote: >>> Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Nico Coesel wrote: >>>>> Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>>>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 10:29:08 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Charlie E. wrote: >>>>>>> [snip] >>>>>>>>> IIRC, Jennic has a development kit and modules that are not too >>>>>>>>> expensive, like $500 for the dev kit... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hmm, no pricing on the site: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.jennic.com/products/modules/jn5148_modules >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But it's just bare modules. When designing I don't really need >>>>>>>> that and $500 just for home automation will raise a flag with >>>>>>>> SWMBO, just like a $500 handbag would with me :-) >>>>>>> Cheapskate! You mean your wife has no Coach purse? >>>>>>> >>>>>> Nope. We tend to use such monies in more useful ways. For example >>>>>> as a >>>>> OTOH buying a bag helps a few kids in Asia to fill their bellies. >>>>> >>>> Sending money to an organization where you can be sure that >80% of >>>> donations make it to the recipients in the form of food and >>>> medication helps a lot more. >>> >>> IOW: Buy from Dealextreme.com instead of Mediamarkt, Wallmart, Fry's, >>> etc, etc. >>> >>> I don't know any organization that helps people efficiently. Over here >>> the anual door-to-door collection result is barely enough to pay the >>> director's salary. >>> >> >> This one does: >> >> http://www.guidedogs.com/site/PageServer >> >> WRT food/med/shelter overseas the best avenue to fond out is a good >> church. They know which organizations are honest and efficient, and if >> they are like ours they are also directly helping from parish to >> parish which makes sure 100% of the money arrives and is used for the >> purpose. I don't know Europe too well anymore but IIRC >> "Welthungerhilfe" is pretty good. AFAIR they used to be above 90%. >> > > World Vision runs about 11% overhead. Great outfit. > > http://www.worldvision.org/resources.nsf/Main/annual-review-2009-resources/$FILE/AR_2009FinancialHighlights.pdf > Yes, there are several such Christian organizations. One guy I know has four kids he supports that way and he sure ain't rich. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Joel Koltner on 17 May 2010 09:47 "D Yuniskis" <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote in message news:hspkoc$edm$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > Some firms > even faster than that (I saw one firm unload a few hundred > 1.4G P4's when 2G machines became available -- sheesh! > how much of their budget is wasted^H^H^H spent on IT staff > if you have that short of a cycle??) I've worked at places where the IT guys felt that "separation of functionality" was so important that there was a separate $3k printer server, a $3k mail server, a $3k SQL server, a $3k file server, etc. -- for a company of about ~20 people. The average percentage CPU load on any of these machines was in the single digits, of course. What a waste...
From: Joerg on 17 May 2010 10:33 Joel Koltner wrote: > "D Yuniskis" <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote in message > news:hspkoc$edm$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >> Some firms >> even faster than that (I saw one firm unload a few hundred >> 1.4G P4's when 2G machines became available -- sheesh! >> how much of their budget is wasted^H^H^H spent on IT staff >> if you have that short of a cycle??) > > I've worked at places where the IT guys felt that "separation of > functionality" was so important that there was a separate $3k printer > server, a $3k mail server, a $3k SQL server, a $3k file server, etc. -- > for a company of about ~20 people. > > The average percentage CPU load on any of these machines was in the > single digits, of course. > > What a waste... > Happens with individuals, too. "Oh, the old PC? That's now my print server". Burning 50+ watts all day long. I have several office printers yet never needed a dedicated print server ... -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: D Yuniskis on 17 May 2010 11:04 Hi Joerg, Joerg wrote: > Joel Koltner wrote: >> The average percentage CPU load on any of these machines was in the >> single digits, of course. >> >> What a waste... > > Happens with individuals, too. "Oh, the old PC? That's now my print > server". Burning 50+ watts all day long. I have several office printers > yet never needed a dedicated print server ... That depends on the printers that you have and how you use them. E.g., most of my printers have network interface cards built in. So, I don't need anything special to talk to any of those. OTOH, the printer that I use most often (an LJ6P) does NOT! So, I connect it to my bastion host (which serves as my local DNS, NTP, TFTP, BOOTP, xfs, HTTP, FTP, etc. server). I.e., the "print server" functionality is "free" -- since all those other services need to be running, anyway... I don't tether any printers directly to a specific machine (well, that's a little lie... the color inkjets are hardwired to my multimedia workstation -- but nothing else *needs* to talk to those) as doing so would force that machine to be up and running *just* to use the printer. :-/ (I have probably 6 or 7 printers that see different kinds of use from different machines, etc.)
From: Joel Koltner on 17 May 2010 11:02
"Joerg" <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:85d2dgFnpqU2(a)mid.individual.net... > Happens with individuals, too. "Oh, the old PC? That's now my print server". > Burning 50+ watts all day long. I have several office printers yet never > needed a dedicated print server ... I've only purchased printers with built-in Ethernet ports for a number for some years now. :-) (There only are two currently in use -- HP OfficeJet K850 and a Canon MX850 multi-function printer/scanner/FAX.) Although I probably should measure the standby current of the K850 -- if it's more than a handful of watts it'd be worth turning off when it's not in use. (The MX850 does stay off by "default" as it gets used just once every week or so, most of the time.) I have one of those integrated DSL modem/routers/wireless access point boxes (...that also has a USB port on the back for network accessible storage -- my wife has a 2.5" drive connected that she uses for backups), although sometimes I worry that perhaps this is going too far towards too much functionality in one box. ---Joel |