From: Robert Baer on
Chris wrote:
> I need to make a PLL that slaves to a 24Hz square wave. The output of
> the loop would be a 60Hz square wave. Any CMOS level chips that would
> be good for this? I understand that I would need to divide by a
> decimal value of 2.5 for the loop.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Maness
Better yet, multiply by 5 and divide by 2.
From: Chris on
On Feb 12, 3:21 pm, Fred Bartoli <" "> wrote:
> Chris a écrit :
>
> > I need to make a PLL that slaves to a 24Hz square wave.  The output of
> > the loop would be a 60Hz square wave.  Any CMOS level chips that would
> > be good for this?  I understand that I would need to divide by a
> > decimal value of 2.5 for the loop.
>
> PLLs a those low frequencies are real slow if you need some 'jitter
> free' output.
>
> Square waves have only odd harmonics. You could square up your 24 Hz,
> apply it to a narrow 120Hz BPF, then divide by two.
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Fred.

The 24Hz is square. What would I use for a BP filter at such a LF
without having a very large inductor?

Chris
From: Fred Bartoli on
Chris a �crit :
> On Feb 12, 3:21 pm, Fred Bartoli <" "> wrote:
>> Chris a �crit :
>>
>>> I need to make a PLL that slaves to a 24Hz square wave. The output of
>>> the loop would be a 60Hz square wave. Any CMOS level chips that would
>>> be good for this? I understand that I would need to divide by a
>>> decimal value of 2.5 for the loop.
>> PLLs a those low frequencies are real slow if you need some 'jitter
>> free' output.
>>
>> Square waves have only odd harmonics. You could square up your 24 Hz,
>> apply it to a narrow 120Hz BPF, then divide by two.
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Fred.
>
> The 24Hz is square. What would I use for a BP filter at such a LF
> without having a very large inductor?
>
> Chris

Make that an active filter. Only Rs and Cs, and at that low frequency,
any opamp will nicely do.


--
Thanks,
Fred.
From: Chris on
On Feb 12, 9:09 pm, Robert Baer <robertb...(a)localnet.com> wrote:
> Chris wrote:
> > I need to make a PLL that slaves to a 24Hz square wave.  The output of
> > the loop would be a 60Hz square wave.  Any CMOS level chips that would
> > be good for this?  I understand that I would need to divide by a
> > decimal value of 2.5 for the loop.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Chris Maness
>
>    Better yet, multiply by 5 and divide by 2.

By dividing in the loop -- you are multiplying by 5. That is what I
meant. The sum effect of the dividing is multiplying.

How much jitter would the combo that I put together have? I can
accept a lock time of a few cycles, I can accept jitter if it only
effects the pulse width and it is not too bad.

As far as the PIC, I have not programmed one before, and I have no
clue on where to start. I can do basic, and some bash script, but I
have never used anything like assembler. I was hoping to order a few
chips from digikey, wire them together, and be done with it. If using
a PIC is fairly easy for a n00b, then I would be willing to look into
it.

Thanks,
Chris
From: Vladimir Vassilevsky on


MooseFET wrote:
> On Feb 12, 3:01 pm, Vladimir Vassilevsky <nos...(a)nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>Chris wrote:
>>
>>>I need to make a PLL that slaves to a 24Hz square wave. The output of
>>>the loop would be a 60Hz square wave. Any CMOS level chips that would
>>>be good for this? I understand that I would need to divide by a
>>>decimal value of 2.5 for the loop.
>>
>>Use a PIC.
>>
>
> No, the 8051 is the right processor for this.

Personally I despise PICs. However PIC became a generic word for any
small microcontroller. Once a customer asked me if I work with PIC
controllers made by AVR company.

Vladimir Vassilevsky
DSP and Mixed Signal Design Consultant
http://www.abvolt.com