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From: John Fields on 8 Jan 2010 09:00 On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 18:13:23 -0800 (PST), Michael B <baughfam(a)bellsouth.net> wrote: >Go to the medical boards sometime. >Arthritis, chronic pain, cancer, etc. >See if your >99% observation applies. >When economy of movement, as well >as a small group that knows what has >come before, top posting is most practical. --- Please... Holding down a scroll key to get to the beginning of a top-posted series of articles is at least 50% less efficacious than having the oldest article on top since once you've read the stack and gotten to the bottom you can type your article there instead of having to scroll back to the top to do it. You're right about one thing though, and that's that groups which orient themselves as if they were email and either pretend or are stupid enough to think that everyone knows what went before should probably stick to the email format instead of burdening themselves with learning how to post properly. Even Google Groups, that bastion for the clueless states, from: http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=12348&topic=250 "Summarize what you're following up. When you click "Reply" under "show options" to follow up an existing article, Google Groups includes the full article in quotes, with the cursor at the top of the article. Tempting though it is to just start typing your message, please STOP and do two things first. Look at the quoted text and remove parts that are irrelevant. Then, go to the BOTTOM of the article and start typing there. Doing this makes it much easier for your readers to get through your post. They'll have a reminder of the relevant text before your comment, but won't have to re-read the entire article. And if your reply appears on a site before the original article does, they'll get the gist of what you're talking about." So, you see, even though you pretend to fight valiantly, tooth and nail, to defend your untenable position, in truth you're reduced yourself to nothing more than a laughingstock low-grade troll since even the lowest common denominator is apprised of proper usenetiquette, which you choose to flaunt for the sole purpose of attracting unwarranted attention by tilting at windmills and fomenting trouble. --- >Hmm, now that I think of it, there is an >enormous number of specific-interest >groups, more being formed all the time. >That would suggest top posting being >more appropriate, --- As well as being a red herring, that statement is false since bottom and in-line posting, when appropriate, is the posting style of choice for anyone who reads from left to right and from top to bottom. Just think about how you're reading this sentence; are you starting from the eroteme and reading back back? I don't think so, ergo: "as above, so below". --- >along with ignoring >self-appointed net-cops that want to try >to force a practice they know to be >archaic and clumsy. --- I'd say that applied more to you than to me since I'm merely defending Google Groups' sage advice while (unless you're trying to troll, which is more likely) you're trying to tear down a practice which serves USENET in good stead and replace it with an onerous non-solution to a non-problem. Key phrase here is: "Don't fix it if it ain't broke." while what you seem to be saying is: "If it works, break it so I can have my way." Amazing what you creeps try to get away with, yes? JF
From: Baron on 8 Jan 2010 09:10 Plonk ! Josepi Inscribed thus: Wincrap snipped. -- Best Regards: Baron.
From: John Fields on 8 Jan 2010 09:38 On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 21:33:50 -0500, "Josepi" <JRM(a)invaliid.con> wrote: >Unbelievable. I didn't have to mouse scroll down and then back up again to >see if I missed anything... > >and look! You header, and JF's is with your text and the one before it are >all in order. > >I have seen many articles on top posting and it seems it will be the way of >the future once people get more modern Usenet browsers that can actually not >mix up the posting. Funny how these obstinates can use top posting everyday >for business email and then totally switch when posting in a forum like >Usenet. > >I have used a few different newsgroup browsers and they all position the >curser at the top. --- That's done as a courtesy to those who are reading the thread for the first time as it allows them to read the thread using what most of us accept as conventional chronology. I suppose you regard it as an unfair intelligence test since you seem to have so much trouble navigating the thread by moving the "curser" to the salient part of the thread or to the most recent article. >There are always special keystrokes to get to the bottom >but then you have to backtrack to find the top of the entry. Even the >signatures lines are handled by deleting them. So many groups use this >method now with the exception of a few old farts from the outdated IRC...LOL --- "Even the signatures lines are handled by deleting them."??? Poor baby, you really _don't_ know how to use a proper newsreader, do you? --- >This should have them cringing in their boots. --- >I used the words "browser", >"forum" and a few others that the "everbody has to be like me" trolls like >to cling onto...LOL --- Sounds like that puts you squarely in the camp you so loudly denounce, since you and the rest of your little junta want to saddle everyone with top posting just to satisfy your bloated egos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_euKhE7rw0&feature=related --- >Have a good one. --- I already do. JF
From: John Fields on 8 Jan 2010 10:10 On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 01:07:41 -0800, Fred Abse <excretatauris(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:06:58 -0500, Josepi wrote: > >> Dimentia becoming aproblem? > >I don' have two minds, only one. > >I think you meant "dementia" --- :-) JF
From: daestrom on 8 Jan 2010 16:28
Josepi wrote: > Was that when you were a ship's captain in the Navy, a nuclear Physicist or > a Hydro Operator? > > "daestrom" <daestrom(a)twcny.rr.com> wrote in message > news:hi5ko60u7r(a)news1.newsguy.com... > > <the usual snipped> > > daestrom > > Just because you are stuck in a dead end job and haven't finished anything you started, doesn't mean everyone else is the same. I was a chief petty officer serving on submarines, not a captain. You obviously don't even know military protocol to make such a stupid gaff. When I got out I put my nuclear power experience to work as a senior reactor operator of a commercial power plant. But I have no idea where you got the idea of hydro operator. Although I have been involved with system operators that work with all types of power plants. And yes, along the way I did a lot of work with computers from UNIX and CPM/86 to Sun SPARC and Windows. My first personal computer was in 1979, long before the IBM PC (and no, it wasn't a trash-80, that was my shipmate's). Bought it to teach myself something new. Learned to program pretty well in FORTRAN, C, JAVA and assembler to name a few (I can recognize LISP, CLIPS or PROLOG when I see them). I'm sorry you have such a sheltered life, but you can only blame yourself. Quite drinking beer in front of the TV with your hand down your pants and make something of yourself. daestrom |