Can Christian Electronic Designers Design? [Design]

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From: D from BC on 7 Apr 2010 19:29

In article <tMudndJDZ8lN_SHWnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>,
regor(a)midwest.net says...
>
> "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2625fa28530c5864989796(a)209.197.12.12...
> > http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/chem/faculty/pavel/Billy%20-%
> > 0Creationist.jpg
> >
> > People are using dumb mutated thinking ape meat to try to understand the
> > dum molecules that make dumb mutated thinking ape meat.
> > The dumb mutated thinking ape meat is making slow progress and it's made
> > slower when some of the dumb mutated thinking ape meat believes there's
> > a dumb mutated thinking ape meat manufacturer in the sky.
> >
> > Answers to your evolution questions can be found on
> > http://www.talkorigins.org
> >
> > Christian engineers have the analysis power to create a massive amount
> > of doubt for the existence of God.
> > 'Christian electronic designer' should be a oxymoron.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > D from BC
> > British Columbia
> >
>
> From what your peers say about you, you're not making Atheist electronic
> designers look very good either. But evidently ones beliefs don't determine

Possible. I make spelking mistakes..
Correction needed in previous post '...an oxymoron'..

> their engineering capability because there are Atheist and Christian
> electronic designers that are better than you, according to the other
> electronic designers here.
>
> A Christian should believe a design takes an intelligent designer, not just
> a large pile of dumb luck.
>
> RogerN

No matter how intelligent a person will be, the Christian childhood
indoctrination (mental vandalism) makes Christianity sticky like shoe
gum.
However it should be easier to break away from childhood Christian
conditioning if their work(Electronics) requires analysis, detective
work, logic, reasoning and evidence collection and evaluation.
Not all, but some will realize there's no good reason to believe in a
God.

Dumb luck happens.
There's probably millions of earthlike planets with life in the
universe.
It's possible some of those earths still have dinosaurs. It's not known
yet.

--
D from BC
British Columbia

From: D from BC on 7 Apr 2010 19:51

In article <80c2a1ec-30e9-422b-ab36-bc341b732c62
@r28g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>, bulegoge(a)columbus.rr.com says...
>
> On Apr 7, 2:53�pm, D from BC <myrealaddr...(a)comic.com> wrote:
> > Isn't every fossil a missing link?
> >
> > Any fossil found is a snapshot of a life before its generations slowly
> > changed into other animals.
> > Every fossil is a link.
> >
> > --
> > D from BC
> > British Columbia
>
>
> "Every fossil is a link"
>
> Sounds like an axiom for a new religion

Fossils are like frames in a movie.
Creationists want all the fossils lined up frame by frame to see the
evolution movie play smoothly.

--
D from BC
British Columbia

From: RogerN on 7 Apr 2010 20:20

From: RogerN on 7 Apr 2010 20:29

"D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2626b51e5766f795989799(a)209.197.12.12...
> In article <tMudndJDZ8lN_SHWnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>,
> regor(a)midwest.net says...
>>
>> "D from BC" <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.2625fa28530c5864989796(a)209.197.12.12...
>> > http://www.bgsu.edu/departments/chem/faculty/pavel/Billy%20-%
>> > 0Creationist.jpg
>> >
>> > People are using dumb mutated thinking ape meat to try to understand
>> > the
>> > dum molecules that make dumb mutated thinking ape meat.
>> > The dumb mutated thinking ape meat is making slow progress and it's
>> > made
>> > slower when some of the dumb mutated thinking ape meat believes there's
>> > a dumb mutated thinking ape meat manufacturer in the sky.
>> >
>> > Answers to your evolution questions can be found on
>> > http://www.talkorigins.org
>> >
>> > Christian engineers have the analysis power to create a massive amount
>> > of doubt for the existence of God.
>> > 'Christian electronic designer' should be a oxymoron.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > D from BC
>> > British Columbia
>> >
>>
>> From what your peers say about you, you're not making Atheist electronic
>> designers look very good either. But evidently ones beliefs don't
>> determine
>
> Possible. I make spelking mistakes..
> Correction needed in previous post '...an oxymoron'..
>
>> their engineering capability because there are Atheist and Christian
>> electronic designers that are better than you, according to the other
>> electronic designers here.
>>
>> A Christian should believe a design takes an intelligent designer, not
>> just
>> a large pile of dumb luck.
>>
>> RogerN
>
> No matter how intelligent a person will be, the Christian childhood
> indoctrination (mental vandalism) makes Christianity sticky like shoe
> gum.
> However it should be easier to break away from childhood Christian
> conditioning if their work(Electronics) requires analysis, detective
> work, logic, reasoning and evidence collection and evaluation.
> Not all, but some will realize there's no good reason to believe in a
> God.
>
> Dumb luck happens.
> There's probably millions of earthlike planets with life in the
> universe.
> It's possible some of those earths still have dinosaurs. It's not known
> yet.
>
> --
> D from BC
> British Columbia
>

Found this, thought you might find it interesting.
"There can be no such things as an atheist. This is why: Let's imagine that
you are a professing atheist. Here are two questions for you to answer:
First, do you know the combined weight of all the sand on all the beaches of
Hawaii? We can safely assume that you don't. This brings us to the second
question: Do you know how many hairs are on the back of a fully-grown male
Tibetan yak? Probably not. It is therefore reasonable to conclude that there
are some things that you don't know. It is important to ask these questions
because there are some people who think they know everything.

Let's say that you know an incredible one percent of all the knowledge in
the universe. To know 100 percent, you would have to know everything. There
wouldn't be a rock in the universe that you would not be intimately familiar
with, or a grain of sand that you would not be aware of. You would know
everything that has happened in history, from that which is common knowledge
to the minor details of the secret love life of Napoleon's
great-grandmother's black cat's fleas. You would know every hair of every
head, and every thought of every heart. All history would be laid out before
you, because you would be omniscient (all-knowing).

Bear in mind that one of the greatest scientists who ever lived, Thomas
Edison, said, "We do not know a millionth of one percent about anything."
Let me repeat: Let's say that you have an incredible one percent of all the
knowledge in the universe. Would it be possible, in the ninety-nine percent
of the knowledge that you haven't yet come across, that there might be ample
evidence to prove the existence of God? If you are reasonable, you will be
forced to admit that it is possible. Somewhere, in the knowledge you haven't
yet discovered, there could be enough evidence to prove that God does exist.

Let's look at the same thought from another angle. If I were to make an
absolute statement such as, "There is no gold in China," what is needed for
that statement to be proven true? I need absolute or total knowledge. I need
to have information that there is no gold in any rock, in any river, in the
ground, in any store, in any ring, or in any mouth (gold filling) in China.
If there is one speck of gold in China, then my statement is false and I
have no basis for it. I need absolute knowledge before I can make an
absolute statement of that nature. Conversely, for me to say, "There is gold
in China," I don't need to have all knowledge. I just need to have seen a
speck of gold in the country, and the statement is then true.

To say categorically, "There is no God," is to make an absolute statement.
For the statement to be true, I must know for certain that there is no God
in the entire universe. No human being has all knowledge. Therefore, none of
us is able to truthfully make this assertion.

If you insist upon disbelief in God, what you must say is, "Having the
limited knowledge I have at present, I believe that there is no God." Owing
to a lack of knowledge on your part, you don't know if God exists. So, in
the strict sense of the word, you cannot be an atheist. The only true
qualifier for the title is the One who has absolute knowledge, and why on
earth would God want to deny His own existence?

The professing atheist is what is commonly known as an "agnostic" - one who
claims he "doesn't know" if God exists. It is interesting to note that the
Latin equivalent for the Greek word is "ignoramus." The Bible tells us that
this ignorance is "willful" (Psalm 10:4). It's not that a person can't find
God, but that he won't. It has been rightly said that the "atheist" can't
find God for the same reason a thief can't find a policeman. He knows that
if he admits that there is a God, he is admitting that he is ultimately
responsible to Him. This is not a pleasant thought for some.

It is said that Mussolini (the Italian dictator), once stood on a pinnacle
and cried, "God, if you are there, strike me dead!" When God didn't
immediately bow to his dictates, Mussolini then concluded that there was no
God. However, his prayer was answered some time later."

RogerN

From: Joel Koltner on 7 Apr 2010 20:32

"RogerN" <regor(a)midwest.net> wrote in message
news:lMWdnWCvK7LEvCDWnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com...
> Atheist-turned-Christian Lee Strobel, the former award-winning legal editor
> of The Chicago Tribune,...
> http://www.leestrobel.com/bio.html

C. S. Lewis is always a good example too... influenced by J. R. R. Tolkien, of
all people, to become a Christian.

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