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From: Ron Johnson on 21 May 2010 22:10 On 05/21/2010 11:41 AM, John Hasler wrote: > JohnRChamplin writes: >> ...which used to be available from unstable, but which I have heard is >> now in sid. > > Unstable _is_ Sid. > > In any case, a few weeks is not old. It is if you're 16... -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4BF73B52.3000608(a)cox.net
From: Osamu Aoki on 22 May 2010 03:50 Hi, On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:48:44AM -0400, Steve Fishpaste wrote: > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:42:16AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. uttered: > > On Friday 21 May 2010 10:23:15 Steve Fishpaste wrote: > > > In my opinion we should keep up with the new releases at least weekly. > > > Is this on the agenda to do? > > > > You volunteering? Contact the maintainer(s). > > Sure if I can help in any way I'd be happy to. > > > If not, you'll just have to wait for the other volunteers to get around to it. > > If they're not going to keep up with upstream, then why in the hell > bother. People want a recent release in a web browser, especially in > Sid! I think others had made several good reasons behind the current Debian situation on this browser. I think it is quite sane not to do weekly build. (If done, please send such ones to experimental.) Please understand releasing big packages such as this one so frequenly will stress many porting efforts for no obvious gains. There are many other packages which we are really behind. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100522072414.GB2680(a)osamu.debian.net
From: Javier Barroso on 22 May 2010 06:10 On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:04 PM, John L Fjellstad < john-debian(a)fjellstad.org> wrote: > Javier Barroso <javibarroso(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > What would be wrong if every app would have its own repository ? > > Nothing > > > There is the problem, isn't it ? > > No > So, if you have 1480 packages, is it fine for you having 1480 repositories ? With this mechanism, apt would lost its super cow powers ! I can find many many advantages trusting debian repositories, so I can search, install and update in a trusted world. No need searching repositories for each app that I would like to have. > > Having an unique repo have many advantages (not need to add / remove > > repositories when they start / die) > > Having an unique repository for packages that you absolutely have to > have the latest at the moment upstream makes it available is an > advantage. Especially if you disagree with the choices or patches that > the maintainer added to package. > I agree with you here
From: Nate Bargmann on 22 May 2010 08:10 * On 2010 22 May 06:42 -0500, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Please understand releasing big packages such as this one so frequenly will > stress many porting efforts for no obvious gains. > > There are many other packages which we are really behind. Just a personal perception here, it seems as though OpenOffice gets updated, mostly advancement of Debian versions, quite frequently. Sometimes frequently enough that I get a bit annoyed at it while some other packages seem to languish. Again this is just a personal perception. I know that some packages have very active maintainer(s) and others not. I've not checked it out closely, but is alioth.debian.org similar to Ubuntu's Launchpad where community members can set up their own personal archive? It seems as though someone who shows a personal interest and (pardon the pun) aptitude with packaging could thus gain some recognition and become a maintainer with a bit more effort. Perhaps I am all wrong. - Nate >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100522120426.GA3108(a)n0nb.us
From: Andrei Popescu on 22 May 2010 11:50
On Sat,22.May.10, 07:04:26, Nate Bargmann wrote: > I've not checked it out closely, but is alioth.debian.org similar to > Ubuntu's Launchpad where community members can set up their own personal > archive? It seems as though someone who shows a personal interest and > (pardon the pun) aptitude with packaging could thus gain some > recognition and become a maintainer with a bit more effort. Perhaps I > am all wrong. Yes, alioth currently hosts a lot of Debian and non-Debian related projects and anyone can get an account there with ssh access. Personal archives can be hosted in ones own $HOME (as well as a VCS for example), but it has to be done by hand. I *think* Launchpad has a web-interface even for that, so it is more attractive for people... not very comfortable with the command-line. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic |