From: Michelle Konzack on
Hello Andrei Popescu,

Am 2010-05-21 18:53:34, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> > but the question is why
> > is it so old when Ubuntu is keeping up-to-date daily?!
> Wasn't there some automatic download/recompile going on in PPA? Or maybe
> the Ubuntu maintainer just has more time...

I do this too (for 23 packages), but at least each 4th package fail and
I have to adapt the scripts...

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack

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From: Steve Fishpaste on
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:38:02AM -0700, Kelly Clowers uttered:
> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 08:23, Steve Fishpaste
> <marathon.durandal(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Good morning folks.
> >
> > Why is the Chromium-browser in Sid so old? Chromium has been on the
> > 6.x branch for a couple of weeks now and Debian is still using the 5.x
> > branch.
> >
> > In my opinion we should keep up with the new releases at least weekly.
> > Is this on the agenda to do?
>
> What's wrong with Google's repo?
> deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ testing non-free
>
> It works fine on my Sid, and "google-chrome-unstable" has been at 6.0.x for
> some time.

Please note that Google-Chrome is NOT Chromium-Browser. If I wanted
Google-Chrome I would install Google-Chrome.


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From: Michelle Konzack on
Hello Nate Bargmann,

Am 2010-05-22 07:04:26, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> Just a personal perception here, it seems as though OpenOffice gets
> updated, mostly advancement of Debian versions, quite frequently.
> Sometimes frequently enough that I get a bit annoyed at it while some
> other packages seem to languish. Again this is just a personal
> perception. I know that some packages have very active maintainer(s)
> and others not.

I tink, this is a question of priority...

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From: Andrew Malcolmson on
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Steve Fishpaste
<marathon.durandal(a)gmail.com> wrote:
....
> If Debian isn't going to keep up with the current trunk; then there
> really is no point in packaging it here. As it stands I'm not going to
> go backwards a full version, so I have reverted to the PPA builds.
>

I'm confused about what your criticism is. The chromium version in
Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat (aka "active development", like Debian Sid)
is 5.0.375.38~r46659. The .5 series is the version you called 'old'.

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser

The .6 version you say Debian is behind on is in Ubuntu's "unsupported
and untrusted Personal Archives (PPAs)". Are you really saying that
Debian is behind in not releasing a package based on that version?


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From: Jonathan Nieder on
Hi Steve,

Steve Fishpaste wrote:

> In my opinion we should keep up with the new releases at least weekly.
> Is this on the agenda to do?

No, I do not think it is in the plans any time soon:

- sid is used to stage versions that could potentially be used in
some stable release. I can't see a more risky branch than the beta
channel being used for this.

- experimental is used to test iffy packaging changes before
releasing them to sid. To test the tip of trunk this way would
rule out more short-lived packaging experiments, which may be
needed now while the packaging is changing rapidly.

However, testing and developing from the tip of the development tree
can be useful for many reasons. You have a couple of options.

1. Build from source. This is in my opinion your best choice,
since if you run into problems this would make it very easy to
test out patches.

The packaging used for sid can also be used to build from the dev
channel or other versions for that matter. If you have any
questions about this, please don't hesitate to ask.

2. Use Fabien Tassin's nightly builds ppa[1] from Ubuntu. This is
not the tip of the development tree but it is close.

Note that almost everything I said above goes for any other project
whose packaging is changing rapidly, too. There is nothing wrong with
regularly building from source a few packages you follow closely, imho.

Hope that helps,
Jonathan

[1] https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa


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