Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Cary Kittrell on 8 Jul 2008 16:37 In article <5oi7745pg43a3vcot00g5chf2q2r9opm57(a)4ax.com> Stan-O <bndsna807(a)aol.com> writes: > Xref: news.arizona.edu sci.physics:526326 sci.physics.relativity:298311 alt.atheism:1933582 > > On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:40:16 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" > <gmail(a)com.mkbilbo> wrote: > > >Stan-O wrote: > >> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:09:58 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>>> I have a sneaking suspicion that they never talk to you. > >>>> Rather like your relationship with God. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Steve O > >>> At one time when I was making mistakes, about half of the posts in > >>> sci.physics.relativity were directed to me. Since I arrived at > >>> equations that hold together, scientists do not post to me. > >>> Robert B. Winn > >> > >> It looks to me like you might be in a few killfiles. > >> > > > >A few? > > Doesn't anyone understand sarcasm? Sheesh! Um...I think you just blew right by a pretty good example there.. -- cary
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) on 8 Jul 2008 17:42 On Jul 8, 10:15 am, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > On Jul 7, 4:31�am, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > > > > > hhyaps...(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > > Since we know that when human die, every thing is gone. > > > The body decays and the consciousness disappear too. Nothing, except > > > memory and children, stay. > > > This is the human cycle and you are blind to it? > > > As I have said before, lots of human like you are greedy, they want to > > > be eternal. But an imaginary eternal heaven is for their god/gods, and > > > not for human. > > > Why are you always wanting to equate heaven for human, when it is > > > supposed to be the home for god/gods? What sane sense do you have? > > > The point is, that people who have nothing to lose except their lives, > > are not controllable politically. If you give them something to lose > > beyond that - their immortal souls - and tell them if they go against > > the particular political institution you put in place to control them as > > slaves - the church, they will lose even that, �then they may just be > > stupid enough to go along with the fiction. > > > Christianity offers two things to slaves: It makes them feel self > > important, and it tells them that if they are good little slaves, they > > will be equal to the highest in the land - possibly more than equal. > > > Cui Bono? > > > The slavemasters and priests, of course. > > > Robbo is just a good little member of the Church of Latter Day Slaves, > > that's all. > > > The thought that he is an unimportant person, and will always be that > > way, and that no one, not even God, actually gives a toss about him, and > > once he is dead they will care even less, is so unappealing to his ego, > > that he cannot bear to even consider the possibility it is true. It > > takes great courage to be an Atheist, courage and humility. Robbo has > > neither. > > > All he has is his Faith. Remove that and he has nothing. > > Well, atheism has nothing to offer. > Robert B. Winn Except for freedom from the bullshit. And that really does free your mind. Al
From: Stan-O on 8 Jul 2008 20:06 On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:37:34 +0000 (UTC), cary(a)afone.as.arizona.edu (Cary Kittrell) wrote: >> >>>> Steve O >> >>> At one time when I was making mistakes, about half of the posts in >> >>> sci.physics.relativity were directed to me. Since I arrived at >> >>> equations that hold together, scientists do not post to me. >> >>> Robert B. Winn >> >> >> >> It looks to me like you might be in a few killfiles. >> >> >> > >> >A few? >> >> Doesn't anyone understand sarcasm? Sheesh! > >Um...I think you just blew right by a pretty good >example there.. Now I know how Charlie Brown feels...
From: Smiler on 8 Jul 2008 20:54 "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail(a)com.mkbilbo> wrote in message news:7rhck5-cuc.ln1(a)75-104-203-5.cust.wildblue.net... > rbwinn wrote: >> >> Well, as the scientists of Galileo's day said, the safe way to go is >> to say that the sun orbits the earth because that is what the majority >> of scientists say. I can certainly forgive you for believing that. >> Robert B. Winn > > No, the church said that. Also, they knew better. They were just trying to > save face because they had long since realized they were wrong. Much like Robbie tries to do. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: rbwinn on 8 Jul 2008 21:01
On Jul 7, 5:24�pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 17:09:58 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > > >> I have a sneaking suspicion that they never talk to you. > >> Rather like your relationship with God. > > >> -- > >> Steve O > >At one time when I was making mistakes, about half of the posts in > >sci.physics.relativity were directed to me. � �Since I arrived at > >equations that hold together, scientists do not post to me. > >Robert B. Winn > > It looks to me like you might be in a few killfiles. Maybe. However, the fact remains that the equations I have show light to be traveling at 186,000 miles per second in two different frames of reference without the distance contraction that causes anything that reaches the speed of light to have a length of 0 in the Lorentz equations. Scientists definitely do not want to discuss those equations. Robert B. Winn |