From: Casper H.S. Dik on
Paul Floyd <root(a)127.0.0.1> writes:

>On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:35:53 -0800 (PST), ChrisS <chris.scarff(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> What Terminal Emulator do you (a Solaris admin) use on Solaris 10 and
>> OpenSolaris?

>I'm no admin, but I use xterm predominantly.


So do I; dtterm and gnome-terminal pretend to scroll fast but rather they
just don't show the whole output. xterm is honest and is quicker.

(Though modern xterm is not as good as the old xterm)

Casper
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From: Martin Paul on
ChrisS wrote:

> When Solaris 11 is finally released there most likely will not be a
> CDE or dtterm.

I've tried to switch from CDE to Gnome/JDS a few times, but always
returned. As I'm spending most of my time in terminal windows, too, the
transition from dtterm to gnome-terminal was one of the main problems as
well. For one, whatever I tried I couldn't get the same clear and crisp
font display in gnome-terminal. No matter which font or anti-alias
setting, I always had blurred letters or coloured shadows.

A few other annoyances which made me stick to CDE:

In CDE, I have icons of running processes always on the same place. I
can move the mouse to a certain terminal window without thinking and
looking. In Gnome's task bar, the icons end up in different places.

Screen output is a lot slower - especially via a remote Sunray(a)home via DSL.

When enlarging a window, I see the actual resolution ("800x800") in CDE.
I don't get that with Gnome, and I found out that I use that frequently
with firefox for testing purposes.

Martin.
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From: Sven Mascheck on
Casper H.S. Dik wrote:

> (Though modern xterm is not as good as the old xterm)

What have you noticed?
From: ChrisS on
On Feb 16, 7:04 am, Martin Paul <m...(a)par.univie.ac.at> wrote:
> ChrisS wrote:
> > When Solaris 11 is finally released there most likely will not be a
> > CDE or dtterm.
>
> I've tried to switch from CDE to Gnome/JDS a few times, but always
> returned. As I'm spending most of my time in terminal windows, too, the
> transition from dtterm to gnome-terminal was one of the main problems as
> well. For one, whatever I tried I couldn't get the same clear and crisp
> font display in gnome-terminal. No matter which font or anti-alias
> setting, I always had blurred letters or coloured shadows.
>
> A few other annoyances which made me stick to CDE:
>
> In CDE, I have icons of running processes always on the same place. I
> can move the mouse to a certain terminal window without thinking and
> looking. In Gnome's task bar, the icons end up in different places.
>
> Screen output is a lot slower - especially via a remote Sunray(a)home via DSL.
>
> When enlarging a window, I see the actual resolution ("800x800") in CDE.
> I don't get that with Gnome, and I found out that I use that frequently
> with firefox for testing purposes.
>
> Martin.
> --
> SysAdmin | Institute of Scientific Computing, University of Vienna
>       PCA | Analyze, download and install patches for Solaris
>           |http://www.par.univie.ac.at/solaris/pca/

It sounds like there's room for a ported version of dtterm (to Solaris
11) or an entirely new terminal window mechanism. Anyone know a great
Sun programmer who'll work for coffee and donuts?

:-)
From: Andrew Gabriel on
In article <4b7a89b6$0$11610$3b214f66(a)usenet.univie.ac.at>,
Martin Paul <map(a)par.univie.ac.at> writes:
>
> When enlarging a window, I see the actual resolution ("800x800") in CDE.
> I don't get that with Gnome, and I found out that I use that frequently
> with firefox for testing purposes.

If you're using compiz, there's a setting to display this (or not).
However, I've no idea what it is, and whilst my laptop displays it,
my desktop doesn't. Since there's no text config file and it's just
about impossible to compare the GUI configs, and I've never found
any useful user documentation, I eventually gave up trying to work
it out.

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