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From: David Combs on 17 Mar 2010 00:11 In article <7u3gi3F7kiU1(a)mid.individual.net>, Michael Laajanen <michael_laajanen(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >Hi, > >ChrisS wrote: >> Thanks everyone for all the positive feedback. It certainly seems >> like there's room for improvement in the terminal session world. I'd >> say terminal windows is 95% of an admin's experience, so why not give >> us what we need? Not what was ported from Linux. >> >> Hopefully a SunOracle Solaris team member will see this thread and >> make it happen. >> >> Good to know I'm not alone in this. >> >> Cheers, >I agree with most of the comments, gnome is slow but I gotten used to >it, and one very nice thing with gnome is tabs, to be able to have many >shells open without cuttering tye display for me that was worth living gnu-emacs does that just fine -- multiple shell windows. (but not so good on displaying a picture or the like!) But for sysadmin, is perfect. Run it once, keep it up for weeks -- you "live" in it. Try it, you'll like it. (Only if you make a real effort to learn the thing, though) David
From: Tim Bradshaw on 17 Mar 2010 07:39 On 2010-03-17 04:04:24 +0000, David Combs said: > Fine, have gnome. Just don't DELETE cde. "Not deleting CDE" requires at least one, and perhaps two things: * it must continue to work, which means it needs to continue to build, and to track changes in the rest of the system; * it may need to be supported - it may be possible to provide it as explicitly-unsupported, but that may be politically difficult. Both of those things cost money. Spending money on a very small population of users is generally only viable if that population is willing to stump up the cost. (I'm guessing it is probably not possible to just open-source it as an orphaned product and let the users maintain it, as it will be entangled in licensing which will cost yet more money to sort out, although if that was not the case this would be a good solution.)
From: Doug McIntyre on 17 Mar 2010 10:33 Tim Bradshaw <tfb(a)tfeb.org> writes: >(I'm guessing it is probably not possible to just open-source it as an >orphaned product and let the users maintain it, as it will be entangled >in licensing which will cost yet more money to sort out, although if >that was not the case this would be a good solution.) Sun doesn't own CDE, the OpenGroup does. Its not an orphaned product, just not worked on at all. There's been a petition around to open-source CDE for some time. http://www.marutan.net/cde/ Didn't seem to go far. OpenMotif has some restrictions in its licensing that aren't too ideal as well.
From: Tim Bradshaw on 18 Mar 2010 06:34 On 2010-03-17 14:33:35 +0000, Doug McIntyre said: > Sun doesn't own CDE, the OpenGroup does. Its not an orphaned product, > just not worked on at all. So Sun could not open source it even if they wanted to :-) I guess the answer, for people who want CDE to continue then, is either to pay Sun enough to continue to support it, or to campaign with the owners that it be open sourced.
From: Canuck57 on 18 Mar 2010 09:04
On 18/03/2010 4:34 AM, Tim Bradshaw wrote: > On 2010-03-17 14:33:35 +0000, Doug McIntyre said: > >> Sun doesn't own CDE, the OpenGroup does. Its not an orphaned product, >> just not worked on at all. > > So Sun could not open source it even if they wanted to :-) > > I guess the answer, for people who want CDE to continue then, is either > to pay Sun enough to continue to support it, or to campaign with the > owners that it be open sourced. Sun does not own CDE at all. While I think it should be open sourced, it is not. And since no real development is going on with it, other than perhaps some minor porting maintenance, it is as good as dead. In fact Solaris is likely to faulter even more, becoming more of a niche OS. Unfortunate, because I think it is the best OS on the planet. But Oracle will be it's death kiss. Markets will shrink to big iron only, running a handfull of special apps. Linux will move in on the low to mid-range. It might take a few years but I see many a shops switching to Linux from Solaris. -- -------------- Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do. |