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From: ChrisS on 15 Feb 2010 13:35 What Terminal Emulator do you (a Solaris admin) use on Solaris 10 and OpenSolaris? I know I'll get picked on here for admitting this, but as an administrator I always go back to CDE's dtterm. It's light-weight, fast and stable. (I dont' use special emulation features like some do). I've tried to migrate to Gnome's terminal emulator, but I find it doesn't output text nearly as fast as dtterm. I've attempted to turn off the anti-aliased fonts of Gnome's terminal window, but it didn't really speed anything up. I suppose the gnome-terminal window is stable and feature rich, but Gnome's desktop is a hog and "somewhat" unstable.... compared to the battleship grey legacy CDE window manager. When Solaris 11 is finally released there most likely will not be a CDE or dtterm. What does an old dinosaur do; just suck it up and use gnome- terminal? Go back to xterm? Move everything in his architecture to Linux? (just kidding, don't hit me) What are other Solaris admins using? My daily existence consists of man pages, ssh sessions, using cat and vim, diagnosing system and storage performance, and lastly file system manipulation. I'm the one who reaches for a command window instead of a file manager. Good advice is welcomed. Tanx!
From: Paul Floyd on 15 Feb 2010 13:56 On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:35:53 -0800 (PST), ChrisS <chris.scarff(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What Terminal Emulator do you (a Solaris admin) use on Solaris 10 and > OpenSolaris? I'm no admin, but I use xterm predominantly. A bientot Paul -- Paul Floyd http://paulf.free.fr
From: Andrew Gabriel on 15 Feb 2010 14:25 In article <e2fc02f9-6c68-4042-b1cb-0e6c849b8ad3(a)s17g2000vbs.googlegroups.com>, ChrisS <chris.scarff(a)gmail.com> writes: > What Terminal Emulator do you (a Solaris admin) use on Solaris 10 and > OpenSolaris? > > I know I'll get picked on here for admitting this, but as an > administrator I always go back to CDE's dtterm. It's light-weight, > fast and stable. (I dont' use special emulation features like some > do). > > I've tried to migrate to Gnome's terminal emulator, but I find it > doesn't output text nearly as fast as dtterm. I've attempted to turn > off the anti-aliased fonts of Gnome's terminal window, but it didn't > really speed anything up. I suppose the gnome-terminal window is > stable and feature rich, but Gnome's desktop is a hog and "somewhat" > unstable.... compared to the battleship grey legacy CDE window > manager. > > When Solaris 11 is finally released there most likely will not be a > CDE or dtterm. > > What does an old dinosaur do; just suck it up and use gnome- > terminal? Go back to xterm? Move everything in his architecture to > Linux? (just kidding, don't hit me) > > What are other Solaris admins using? My daily existence consists of > man pages, ssh sessions, using cat and vim, diagnosing system and > storage performance, and lastly file system manipulation. > > I'm the one who reaches for a command window instead of a file > manager. I share your pain, but I bit the bullet and switched to gnome-terminal a couple of years ago. Some of the apps I use explicitly spawn xterm, so I use that too. I still have to revert to dtterm for one or two things which make extensive use of curses - gnome-terminal and xterm just don't have sufficiently working termcap/terminfo entries for anything which uses curses more fully than vi does. One of my own applications uses -S (slave mode) which gnome-terminal doesn't support, so for that I have to use xterm or dtterm. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
From: Richard L. Hamilton on 15 Feb 2010 14:27 In article <e2fc02f9-6c68-4042-b1cb-0e6c849b8ad3(a)s17g2000vbs.googlegroups.com>, ChrisS <chris.scarff(a)gmail.com> writes: > What Terminal Emulator do you (a Solaris admin) use on Solaris 10 and > OpenSolaris? > > I know I'll get picked on here for admitting this, but as an > administrator I always go back to CDE's dtterm. It's light-weight, > fast and stable. (I dont' use special emulation features like some > do). > > I've tried to migrate to Gnome's terminal emulator, but I find it > doesn't output text nearly as fast as dtterm. I've attempted to turn > off the anti-aliased fonts of Gnome's terminal window, but it didn't > really speed anything up. I suppose the gnome-terminal window is > stable and feature rich, but Gnome's desktop is a hog and "somewhat" > unstable.... compared to the battleship grey legacy CDE window > manager. > > When Solaris 11 is finally released there most likely will not be a > CDE or dtterm. > > What does an old dinosaur do; just suck it up and use gnome- > terminal? Go back to xterm? Move everything in his architecture to > Linux? (just kidding, don't hit me) > > What are other Solaris admins using? My daily existence consists of > man pages, ssh sessions, using cat and vim, diagnosing system and > storage performance, and lastly file system manipulation. > > I'm the one who reaches for a command window instead of a file > manager. > > Good advice is welcomed. > > Tanx! dtterm is decent, except I wish it had the alternate buffer so that the display would be restored to what it was before running something cursor-addressible like vi. Newer versions of xterm don't totally suck. From what I've seen, you aren't the only one less than thrilled with gnome-terminal. I would suppose that if one brought forward the right files, the old CDE stuff would still work. Trick would be to do so _carefully_, not overwriting anything new. Not that I've yet tried to retrofit CDE on top of OpenSolaris (the distro) or anything like that. I'll definitely miss CDE; it's not heavy on eye-candy, but it's decently fast, and plenty customizable as long as one doesn't mind getting one's hands dirty writing shell scripts, action definitions, and suchlike.
From: Richard B. Gilbert on 15 Feb 2010 15:28
ChrisS wrote: > What Terminal Emulator do you (a Solaris admin) use on Solaris 10 and > OpenSolaris? > > I know I'll get picked on here for admitting this, but as an > administrator I always go back to CDE's dtterm. It's light-weight, > fast and stable. (I dont' use special emulation features like some > do). > > I've tried to migrate to Gnome's terminal emulator, but I find it > doesn't output text nearly as fast as dtterm. I've attempted to turn > off the anti-aliased fonts of Gnome's terminal window, but it didn't > really speed anything up. I suppose the gnome-terminal window is > stable and feature rich, but Gnome's desktop is a hog and "somewhat" > unstable.... compared to the battleship grey legacy CDE window > manager. > > When Solaris 11 is finally released there most likely will not be a > CDE or dtterm. > > What does an old dinosaur do; just suck it up and use gnome- > terminal? Go back to xterm? Move everything in his architecture to > Linux? (just kidding, don't hit me) > > What are other Solaris admins using? My daily existence consists of > man pages, ssh sessions, using cat and vim, diagnosing system and > storage performance, and lastly file system manipulation. > > I'm the one who reaches for a command window instead of a file > manager. > I use a package called "Reflection 4" from a company known as Walker, Richer, and Quinn. It does a very good DEC VT100 or VT200 emulation. It also does Graphics (VT240 emulation) It's expensive. If you don't need all the bells and whistles, you will probably want something a little, or a lot, cheaper. <snip> |