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From: ChrisS on 17 Feb 2010 00:07 Thanks everyone for all the positive feedback. It certainly seems like there's room for improvement in the terminal session world. I'd say terminal windows is 95% of an admin's experience, so why not give us what we need? Not what was ported from Linux. Hopefully a SunOracle Solaris team member will see this thread and make it happen. Good to know I'm not alone in this. Cheers,
From: Richard B. Gilbert on 17 Feb 2010 10:20 ChrisS wrote: > Thanks everyone for all the positive feedback. It certainly seems > like there's room for improvement in the terminal session world. I'd > say terminal windows is 95% of an admin's experience, so why not give > us what we need? Not what was ported from Linux. > > Hopefully a SunOracle Solaris team member will see this thread and > make it happen. > > Good to know I'm not alone in this. > > Cheers, It's not clear to me what you are asking for or why! Sun Workstations don't need a terminal emulator. Sun Servers do need either a terminal or a terminal emulator. Both are available. Perhaps not available from Sun but they are nonetheless readily obtainable from third parties.
From: Mike Marshall on 17 Feb 2010 10:56 "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88(a)comcast.net> writes: >It's not clear to me what you are asking for or why! >Sun Workstations don't need a terminal emulator. xterm = terminal emulator dtterm = terminal emulator Us system administrators don't do anything with our workstations except fire off a bunch of terminal emulators and stare into them all day long. dtterm is an awesome terminal emulator... xterms aren't so bad either, but if you've been using dtterms for 10 or 15 years, xterms take some getting used to. Red Green's men's prayer is "I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess." In system administration, this probably applies to ladies too... -Mike
From: Colin B. on 17 Feb 2010 17:08 ChrisS <chris.scarff(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What Terminal Emulator do you (a Solaris admin) use on Solaris 10 and > OpenSolaris? > > I know I'll get picked on here for admitting this, but as an > administrator I always go back to CDE's dtterm. It's light-weight, > fast and stable. (I dont' use special emulation features like some > do). > > I've tried to migrate to Gnome's terminal emulator, but I find it > doesn't output text nearly as fast as dtterm. I've attempted to turn > off the anti-aliased fonts of Gnome's terminal window, but it didn't > really speed anything up. I suppose the gnome-terminal window is > stable and feature rich, but Gnome's desktop is a hog and "somewhat" > unstable.... compared to the battleship grey legacy CDE window > manager. > > When Solaris 11 is finally released there most likely will not be a > CDE or dtterm. > > What does an old dinosaur do; just suck it up and use gnome- > terminal? Go back to xterm? Move everything in his architecture to > Linux? (just kidding, don't hit me) > > What are other Solaris admins using? My daily existence consists of > man pages, ssh sessions, using cat and vim, diagnosing system and > storage performance, and lastly file system manipulation. > > I'm the one who reaches for a command window instead of a file > manager. > > Good advice is welcomed. I use gnome-terminal under the "Java Desktop." There are many things about it that I hate, but a few things I love. OK, one: Transparent windows. I'm a sucker for background eye candy, and this machine is fast enough to let me get away with it. Having said that, gnome-terminal is still insanely slow to scroll, doesn't support some nice xterm functionality, and always feels kludgy. Running under a single process ain't my idea of ideal either. Of course, the Java Desktop is something like six years behind the current Gnome desktop--it's possible that the modern gnome-terminal is quite a bit better, but we'll never see it in Solaris 10. Colin
From: Michael Laajanen on 17 Feb 2010 19:39
Hi, ChrisS wrote: > Thanks everyone for all the positive feedback. It certainly seems > like there's room for improvement in the terminal session world. I'd > say terminal windows is 95% of an admin's experience, so why not give > us what we need? Not what was ported from Linux. > > Hopefully a SunOracle Solaris team member will see this thread and > make it happen. > > Good to know I'm not alone in this. > > Cheers, I agree with most of the comments, gnome is slow but I gotten used to it, and one very nice thing with gnome is tabs, to be able to have many shells open without cuttering tye display for me that was worth living with the slow scrolling. BTW, what about the KDE tools, kterm! /michael |