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From: Richard B. Gilbert on 16 Feb 2010 09:11 Martin Paul wrote: > ChrisS wrote: > >> When Solaris 11 is finally released there most likely will not be a >> CDE or dtterm. > > I've tried to switch from CDE to Gnome/JDS a few times, but always > returned. As I'm spending most of my time in terminal windows, too, the > transition from dtterm to gnome-terminal was one of the main problems as > well. For one, whatever I tried I couldn't get the same clear and crisp > font display in gnome-terminal. No matter which font or anti-alias > setting, I always had blurred letters or coloured shadows. > > A few other annoyances which made me stick to CDE: > > In CDE, I have icons of running processes always on the same place. I > can move the mouse to a certain terminal window without thinking and > looking. In Gnome's task bar, the icons end up in different places. > > Screen output is a lot slower - especially via a remote Sunray(a)home via > DSL. > > When enlarging a window, I see the actual resolution ("800x800") in CDE. > I don't get that with Gnome, and I found out that I use that frequently > with firefox for testing purposes. > > Martin. CDE stands for Common Desktop Environment. It means that you can switch from Solaris to IRIX, to AIX, to . . . and see the same, or highly similar, icons which will do the same or, highly similar, things. I don't know if it was ever formally standardized but it's at least a de facto standard!
From: Andrew Gabriel on 16 Feb 2010 09:19 In article <o96dnX6gC9IGOufWnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88(a)comcast.net> writes: > > CDE stands for Common Desktop Environment. It means that you can switch > from Solaris to IRIX, to AIX, to . . . and see the same, or highly and HP-UX > similar, icons which will do the same or, highly similar, things. > > I don't know if it was ever formally standardized but it's at least a de > facto standard! Yes. I believe it was at one time a requirement for UNIX branding that if you offered X, you also had to offer CDE (although you didn't have to offer X at all). -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
From: Andreas F. Borchert on 16 Feb 2010 09:42 On 2010-02-15, ChrisS <chris.scarff(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What Terminal Emulator do you (a Solaris admin) use on Solaris 10 and > OpenSolaris? xterm as provided on http://invisible-island.net/xterm/ by Thomas E. Dickey. Andreas.
From: Hank on 16 Feb 2010 14:50 In article <4b7a89b6$0$11610$3b214f66(a)usenet.univie.ac.at>, Martin Paul <map(a)par.univie.ac.at> wrote: >ChrisS wrote: > >> When Solaris 11 is finally released there most likely will not be a >> CDE or dtterm. > >I've tried to switch from CDE to Gnome/JDS a few times, but always >returned. As I'm spending most of my time in terminal windows, too, the >transition from dtterm to gnome-terminal was one of the main problems as >well. For one, whatever I tried I couldn't get the same clear and crisp >font display in gnome-terminal. No matter which font or anti-alias >setting, I always had blurred letters or coloured shadows. > I, too, have tried to develop at least minimal skills at using Gnome, both the Solaris JDS version and some of the "windows replacement" Linuxes, and find it completely wanting. CDE, for whatever may be wrong with it, has filled the bill for me for something like 15 years, and if the next version of Solaris doesn't have it or won't allow installation from Solaris 10 packages, I won't run Solaris 11. Ikons I have always found senseless and baffling. And the whole idea of having to use a mouse primarily and keystrokes secondarily is a royal pain in the neck---makes me feel as though I'm playing stride piano rather than working with a computer. On top of which I'm a leftie, and so many pointer devices are rightie-only. If I wanted to have a Windows or Mac experience, I'd run a Windows or Mac setup and have done with it. I've never liked either one, and for Solaris to give me no alternative than a consumer-grade interface, I might as well run a Linux and search for a viable alternative to Gnome. Hank
From: Mike Marshall on 16 Feb 2010 16:34
hankvc(a)blackhole.lostwells.net (Hank) writes: >CDE, for whatever may be >wrong with it, has filled the bill for me for something like 15 years, I'll say... but, as of just the last couple of months, my workstation is a Mac. I'll miss dtterms, but when all you need is a screen full of vt100s and web browser, ... Here's the xterm invocation I'm using that seems OK: xterm -name whatever -sb -sl 500 -tn vt100 -Mike "using X on a mac is like kicking a dead whale down the beach" |