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From: Kjetil Torgrim Homme on 21 Feb 2010 08:41 [Michael Laajanen]: > > I think xterm arrived almost before X11 itself! that's correct, XTerm appeared in X10. looked a bit different, though. (well, technically it was the widget library which looked different.) -- Kjetil T.
From: Kjetil Torgrim Homme on 21 Feb 2010 09:05 [Hugh Coomes]: > > I am still using xterm, primarily because I have not found another > terminal emulator that matches the xterm capability of mapping > keystroke output (using the X resource: XTerm*VT100.Translations: > #override). > > Are there any other terminal emulators that implement mapping of > keystroke output in a complete and reasonable manner ? as a preparatory step towards switching to gnome-terminal, I wrote a small program for faking keypresses, which can be bound to keys in GNOME preferences. see http://kjetilho.at.ifi.uio.no/hacks/#fakekeypresses -- Kjetil T.
From: Hank on 21 Feb 2010 20:56 In article <5oTfn.869$sx5.637(a)newsfe16.iad>, Canuck57 <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote: >On 18/02/2010 4:06 PM, Drazen Kacar wrote: >> ChrisS wrote: >>> What Terminal Emulator do you (a Solaris admin) use on Solaris 10 and >>> OpenSolaris? >> >> I use wterm, with some home-made patches. >> >>> I know I'll get picked on here for admitting this, but as an >>> administrator I always go back to CDE's dtterm. It's light-weight, >> >> A long time ago someone said people would start calling Motif applications >> lightweight one day and I didn't believe. :-) > >Neither did I, yet by todays standards it is a lean model. > >>> What does an old dinosaur do; just suck it up and use gnome- >>> terminal? Go back to xterm? >> >> I'm considering moving to xterm, but I suppose I'll have to compile it >> myself. > >Have been using xterm since I don't know when, perhaps 80's. Certainly >in the 90's. Always is consistant and there. Xterm was around in 1985-86, and predated X11---I think it was X9 or X10 and more-or-less brute-force ported to X11. For me, those were DEC days, with a lot of development for either VMS or Ultrix, with a lot of development happening at MIT on their Athena BSD 4.3 setup. I still remember the first time an MIT grad student talked to me about "instantiating a widget." I couldn't figure whether he was talking something real or just trying to be insulting. Hank
From: wschaub on 25 Feb 2010 18:52 On 2010-02-15, ChrisS <chris.scarff(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What Terminal Emulator do you (a Solaris admin) use on Solaris 10 and > OpenSolaris? > > I know I'll get picked on here for admitting this, but as an > administrator I always go back to CDE's dtterm. It's light-weight, > fast and stable. (I dont' use special emulation features like some > do). > > I've tried to migrate to Gnome's terminal emulator, but I find it > doesn't output text nearly as fast as dtterm. I've attempted to turn > off the anti-aliased fonts of Gnome's terminal window, but it didn't > really speed anything up. I suppose the gnome-terminal window is > stable and feature rich, but Gnome's desktop is a hog and "somewhat" > unstable.... compared to the battleship grey legacy CDE window > manager. > > When Solaris 11 is finally released there most likely will not be a > CDE or dtterm. > > What does an old dinosaur do; just suck it up and use gnome- > terminal? Go back to xterm? Move everything in his architecture to > Linux? (just kidding, don't hit me) > > What are other Solaris admins using? My daily existence consists of > man pages, ssh sessions, using cat and vim, diagnosing system and > storage performance, and lastly file system manipulation. > > I'm the one who reaches for a command window instead of a file > manager. > > Good advice is welcomed. > > Tanx! I rather like Aterm myself. its very lightweight and based off of rxvt. I have mine compiled to use a NeXT style scroll bar on the left hand side. I also love CDE and haven't even considered switching. I have my find key set up to launch Aterm when I press it with a black background with lime green text for nostalgic purposes. If I could choose my ideal desktop environment it would be the SGI Indigo magic desktop with a CDE style dock. I only wish SGI had released the sources for that along with the inst package manager.
From: David Combs on 9 Mar 2010 06:02
In article <hle9gr$6ti$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Andrew Gabriel <andrew(a)cucumber.demon.co.uk> wrote: >In article <o96dnX6gC9IGOufWnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d(a)giganews.com>, > "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88(a)comcast.net> writes: >> >> CDE stands for Common Desktop Environment. It means that you can switch >> from Solaris to IRIX, to AIX, to . . . and see the same, or highly > >and HP-UX > >> similar, icons which will do the same or, highly similar, things. >> >> I don't know if it was ever formally standardized but it's at least a de >> facto standard! > >Yes. I believe it was at one time a requirement for UNIX branding >that if you offered X, you also had to offer CDE (although you >didn't have to offer X at all). > >-- >Andrew Gabriel >[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] So what's the problem with sending a letter to McNealy with 100 signatures DEMANDING that they continue to support CDE WAY out into the future? Especially if the current machines from a Sun competitor DO maintain CDE! Tell him that you guys are all sys-admins, have a lot of input into what machine-brand you'll be buying, and that what you do is SIT IN A TEXT EDITOR ALL DAY LONG!, and that having a user-friendly makes a big DIFFERENCE in how much work you get done per day, and in what mood (anger?) you experience DURING the day towards your work. And that besides, the whole idea of having a supplier removing something good, pulling the rug out from under one's feet, is enough to make one TOTALLY ("WAY"?) FURIOUS, to become known at tech-parties and conference to SHOUT into the audience mike "THOSE <expletive deleted> BASTARDS AT <name of company> make a HABIT of removing GOOD, WORKING SOFTWARE in new versions of the OS", and then to have the NEXT guy in line behind you get to the mike and say "First, I FULLY AGREE WITH HIM ABOUT <name of company>!; now, here's my question: "... I mean, it's OUITRAGEOUS for these guys to kill-off CDE, when so many sys-admins RELY on it! (The idea: make use of all my upper-case words, and you become furious. THEN is when you write your letter. :-) ) Hmmm. I'VE GOT IT! They're paying someone to advise them on how to keep the company looking up-to-date. At one million per year. And who might that be. Hint: initials C. F., used to work at HP! :-) David |