From: Sam Wormley on 29 Nov 2009 17:06 Marvin the Martian wrote: > On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:55:10 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: > >> Marvin the Martian wrote: > >>> Answer these two questions, without a cut and paste from one of your >>> bot replies. >>> >>> Do the East Anglia e-mails show that there is global cooling or not? >> Global warming is happening independent of emails. The impact of >> increasing temperature is showing up in many way in many parts of the >> world. I don't really care much about the East Anglia e-mails. > > 1) You're an idiot. The e-mails show that the top frauds in the AGW scam > KNOW that there is no warming. They were conspiring to HIDE the warming. > Okay, give it up. > > 2) You're saying that there's warming. Based on the "work" that we now > know as lies. So other words, you're sticking WITH the bald faced lies > even when everyone KNOWS they're lies. > > > >>> Do the East Anglia E-mails show that there is an intentional hiding of >>> the cooling? >>> >>> >> There is no cooling to hide, Marvin. You would do well to start >> taking global climate change seriously. > > You're delusional. Marvin, it doesn't matter what I am... I'm insignificant. I would appreciate it if you could be a bit more objective, Martin. Look at his increase in sea level. http://www.wildwildweather.com/forecastblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/700px-recent_sea_level_rise.png What does that tell you?
From: Bill Ward on 29 Nov 2009 17:13 On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:09:09 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: > TUKA wrote: > > >> Sorry, bud. It's all over the news. Can't help if you don't read it. >> >> Your heroes are lying scumbags. Now *you* are the denier -- get it? >> >> > > Hacked climate emails called a "smear campaign" > > http://www.reuters.com/article/ internal_ReutersNewsRoom_BehindTheScenes_MOLT/idUSTRE5AO4TW20091125 > > Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:54pm EST Email | Print | Share | Reprints | Single > Page [-] Text [+] Featured Broker sponsored link > > by Stacy Feldman, SolveClimate solveclimate.com/ > > (SolveClimate) Three leading scientists who on Tuesday released a report > documenting the accelerating pace of climate change said the scandal > that erupted last week over hacked emails from climate scientists is > nothing more than a "smear campaign" aimed at sabotaging December > climate talks in Copenhagen. > > "We're facing an effort by special interests who are trying to confuse > the public," said Richard Somerville, Distinguished Professor Emeritus > at Scripps Institution of Oceanography and a lead author of the UN IPCC > Fourth Assessment Report. > > Dissenters see action to slow global warming as "a threat," he said. > > The comments were made in a conference call for reporters. > > The scientists—Somerville, Michael Mann of Penn State and Eric Steig of > University of Washington—were supposed to be discussing their new > report, the Copenhagen Diagnosis, a dismal update of the UN IPCC's 2007 > climate data by 26 scientists from eight nations. > > Instead they spent much of the time diffusing the hacker controversy, > known in the media as "Climate Gate." > > The scandal began on November 20, when an unknown hacker stole at least > 169 megabytes of emails from computers at the prominent Climate Research > Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia and put them online for the > world to see. > > CRU is considered one of the world's leading institutions concerned with > human-caused global warming. The leaked emails contain private > correspondence on climate science dating back to 1996. > > Skeptics of global warming say these messages are filled with evidence > of manipulated data from lead authors of the UN's highly influential > IPCC reports. > > more: > http://www.reuters.com/article/ internal_ReutersNewsRoom_BehindTheScenes_MOLT/idUSTRE5AO4TW20091125 I believe the technical term for Sam's condition is "unhinged". He's simply gone round the bend, beyond reach of sanity. Perhaps he's the first actual casualty of the AGW collapse. He just can't deal with the fact he's been proven wrong, and mindlessly chants his mantra, hoping it will protect him from reality. Oh well, no great loss, on with life...
From: Marvin the Martian on 29 Nov 2009 17:56 On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:06:23 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: > Marvin the Martian wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:55:10 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: >> >>> Marvin the Martian wrote: >> >>>> Answer these two questions, without a cut and paste from one of your >>>> bot replies. >>>> >>>> Do the East Anglia e-mails show that there is global cooling or not? >>> Global warming is happening independent of emails. The impact of >>> increasing temperature is showing up in many way in many parts of >>> the world. I don't really care much about the East Anglia e-mails. >> >> 1) You're an idiot. The e-mails show that the top frauds in the AGW >> scam KNOW that there is no warming. They were conspiring to HIDE the >> warming. Okay, give it up. >> >> 2) You're saying that there's warming. Based on the "work" that we now >> know as lies. So other words, you're sticking WITH the bald faced lies >> even when everyone KNOWS they're lies. >> >> >> >>>> Do the East Anglia E-mails show that there is an intentional hiding >>>> of the cooling? >>>> >>>> >>> There is no cooling to hide, Marvin. You would do well to start >>> taking global climate change seriously. >> >> You're delusional. > > Marvin, it doesn't matter what I am... I'm insignificant. I would > appreciate it if you could be a bit more objective, Martin. Look at > his increase in sea level. > http://www.wildwildweather.com/forecastblog/wp-content/ uploads/2008/09/700px-recent_sea_level_rise.png > > > What does that tell you? That glaciers which started retreating with the end of the ice age 25,000 years ago is causing the oceans to very slowly rise. What I've asked you before and you simply changed the subject is why you believe that the first 24,900 years since the end of the ice age is natural and the last 100 years is caused by the United States. And why the only solution you go to this "problem" is to pack up what is left of US industry and send it to china and to tax Americans into freezing to death. It also tells me that you don't know what a rational argument is.
From: Bill Ward on 29 Nov 2009 20:46 On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:06:23 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: > Marvin the Martian wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:55:10 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: >> >>> Marvin the Martian wrote: >> >>>> Answer these two questions, without a cut and paste from one of your >>>> bot replies. >>>> >>>> Do the East Anglia e-mails show that there is global cooling or not? >>> Global warming is happening independent of emails. The impact of >>> increasing temperature is showing up in many way in many parts of >>> the world. I don't really care much about the East Anglia e-mails. >> >> 1) You're an idiot. The e-mails show that the top frauds in the AGW >> scam KNOW that there is no warming. They were conspiring to HIDE the >> warming. Okay, give it up. >> >> 2) You're saying that there's warming. Based on the "work" that we now >> know as lies. So other words, you're sticking WITH the bald faced lies >> even when everyone KNOWS they're lies. >> >> >> >>>> Do the East Anglia E-mails show that there is an intentional hiding >>>> of the cooling? >>>> >>>> >>> There is no cooling to hide, Marvin. You would do well to start >>> taking global climate change seriously. >> >> You're delusional. > > Marvin, it doesn't matter what I am... I'm insignificant. I would > appreciate it if you could be a bit more objective, Martin. Look at > his increase in sea level. > http://www.wildwildweather.com/forecastblog/wp-content/ uploads/2008/09/700px-recent_sea_level_rise.png > > > What does that tell you? That you're really, really desperate to change the subject. Sorry, game over.
From: Sam Wormley on 29 Nov 2009 21:02
Bill Ward wrote: > That you're really, really desperate to change the subject. > > Sorry, game over. > Yes, Bill, your game is over... we are already starting to see impacts of global warming showing up in agriculture, ecosystems, weather patterns, shifting seasons and ice melting. The global data CLEARLY shows: Human contributed increase in green house gas CO2 http://edu-observatory.org/olli/800000yrs_CO2.png http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/10/16/0907094106 http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091023163513.htm Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif And accompanying Sea Level Rise http://www.wildwildweather.com/forecastblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/700px-recent_sea_level_rise.png There are many sources of good data http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/ http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php Here's some data from Iowa State University http://www.meteor.iastate.edu/faculty/takle/presentations.html More from University of Iowa http://www.engineering.uiowa.edu/faculty-staff/profile-directory/cee/schnoor_j.php |