From: TUKA on 29 Nov 2009 01:26 On 2009-11-29, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > TUKA wrote: >> On 2009-11-29, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)mchsi.com> wrote: >>> Marvin the Martian wrote: >>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:30:36 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hey Marvin--You need to start taking global climate change seriously. >>>> I do. I want to see criminal penalties for the frauds lied and said that >>>> it was warming when the earth was cooling. This is a trillion dollar >>>> scam. Perhaps put them on trial for high treason. >>>> >>>> You don't give a rip about scientific integrity nor about your country. >>> For some reason, you seem to believe that all climate data has >>> been doctored. In reality very little, if any has been "doctored". >>> You have yet to show a before and after "doctored" data set. >>> >>> The global data CLEARLY shows: >>> >>> Human contributed increase in green house gas CO2 >>> http://edu-observatory.org/olli/800000yrs_CO2.png >>> http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/10/16/0907094106 >>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091023163513.htm >>> >>> Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase >>> http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif >>> >>> And accompanying Sea Level Rise >>> http://www.wildwildweather.com/forecastblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/700px-recent_sea_level_rise.png >>> >>> There are many sources of good data, Marvin >>> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/ >>> http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php >> >> Lies. They won't show the raw data. >> > > As any fool can see, you are wrong. Oh yeah? Just give the URL where it can be found. No, cooked data from NOAA doesn't count. Raw data only. All of it. Including the station listings that supposedly provide the final data. They won't provide it, and are being sued for it. And HADCRU? Oh yeah, they just in the past few hours admitted they destroyed it all. All raw data from 1988 and before, gone. -- An alien from Mars would almost instantly diagnose the problem of the Palestinians from simply listening to their inane apologists: The problem is not the acquisition of the final seven percent of the West Bank denied in the offer to them at Camp David, but the pathology of a victim culture, one that has learned, through playing the card of terror with simultaneous appeals to multicultural guilt, how to shake down Westerners for their money, attention, and pity. -Victor Davis Hanson
From: Sam Wormley on 29 Nov 2009 01:29 TUKA wrote: > On 2009-11-29, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)mchsi.com> wrote: >> TUKA wrote: >>> On 2009-11-29, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)mchsi.com> wrote: >>>> Marvin the Martian wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:27:25 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: >>>>>> Climate Data >>>>>> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/ >>>>> You're not grasping the concept. >>>>> >>>>> The e-mails show that the data's been doctored to show warming where >>>>> there is cooling. >>>> For some reason, you seem to believe that all climate data has >>>> been doctored. In reality very little, if any has been "doctored". >>>> You have yet to show a before and after "doctored" data set. >>> You can't -- they destroyed the raw data. >>> >>>> The global data CLEARLY shows: >>>> >>>> Human contributed increase in green house gas CO2 >>>> http://edu-observatory.org/olli/800000yrs_CO2.png >>>> http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/10/16/0907094106 >>>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091023163513.htm >>>> >>>> Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase >>>> http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif >>> Nope. Data destroyed. >>> >>>> And accompanying Sea Level Rise >>>> http://www.wildwildweather.com/forecastblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/700px-recent_sea_level_rise.png >>>> >>>> There are many sources of good data, Marvin >>>> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/ >>>> http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php >>> Real Climate? Dominated by East Anglioids? And NOAA? >>> >>> *Neither of them will show the raw data*. And now East Anglia says the raw data >>> was destroyed. >>> >>>> Marvin, you REALLY need to start taking this global climate >>>> change seriously. Seriously! >>> We do -- the cooking of the books is a serious crime. The perpetrators >>> should be tried. Seriously. >>> >> <laughing> > > Any laughing going on is at you. You re claiming "the global data shows", and > there is none. > We differ.
From: Sam Wormley on 29 Nov 2009 01:30 TUKA wrote: > On 2009-11-29, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)mchsi.com> wrote: >> TUKA wrote: >>> On 2009-11-29, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)mchsi.com> wrote: >>>> Marvin the Martian wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:30:36 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hey Marvin--You need to start taking global climate change seriously. >>>>> I do. I want to see criminal penalties for the frauds lied and said that >>>>> it was warming when the earth was cooling. This is a trillion dollar >>>>> scam. Perhaps put them on trial for high treason. >>>>> >>>>> You don't give a rip about scientific integrity nor about your country. >>>> For some reason, you seem to believe that all climate data has >>>> been doctored. In reality very little, if any has been "doctored". >>>> You have yet to show a before and after "doctored" data set. >>>> >>>> The global data CLEARLY shows: >>>> >>>> Human contributed increase in green house gas CO2 >>>> http://edu-observatory.org/olli/800000yrs_CO2.png >>>> http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/10/16/0907094106 >>>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091023163513.htm >>>> >>>> Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase >>>> http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif >>>> >>>> And accompanying Sea Level Rise >>>> http://www.wildwildweather.com/forecastblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/700px-recent_sea_level_rise.png >>>> >>>> There are many sources of good data, Marvin >>>> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/ >>>> http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php >>> Lies. They won't show the raw data. >>> >> As any fool can see, you are wrong. > > Oh yeah? Just give the URL where it can be found. > > No, cooked data from NOAA doesn't count. Raw data only. All of it. > Including the station listings that supposedly provide the final data. > They won't provide it, and are being sued for it. > > And HADCRU? Oh yeah, they just in the past few hours admitted they > destroyed it all. All raw data from 1988 and before, gone. Cite evidence.
From: TUKA on 29 Nov 2009 01:35 On 2009-11-29, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > TUKA wrote: >> On 2009-11-29, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)mchsi.com> wrote: >>> TUKA wrote: >>>> On 2009-11-29, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)mchsi.com> wrote: >>>>> Marvin the Martian wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:30:36 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Marvin--You need to start taking global climate change seriously. >>>>>> I do. I want to see criminal penalties for the frauds lied and said that >>>>>> it was warming when the earth was cooling. This is a trillion dollar >>>>>> scam. Perhaps put them on trial for high treason. >>>>>> >>>>>> You don't give a rip about scientific integrity nor about your country. >>>>> For some reason, you seem to believe that all climate data has >>>>> been doctored. In reality very little, if any has been "doctored". >>>>> You have yet to show a before and after "doctored" data set. >>>>> >>>>> The global data CLEARLY shows: >>>>> >>>>> Human contributed increase in green house gas CO2 >>>>> http://edu-observatory.org/olli/800000yrs_CO2.png >>>>> http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/10/16/0907094106 >>>>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091023163513.htm >>>>> >>>>> Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase >>>>> http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif >>>>> >>>>> And accompanying Sea Level Rise >>>>> http://www.wildwildweather.com/forecastblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/700px-recent_sea_level_rise.png >>>>> >>>>> There are many sources of good data, Marvin >>>>> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/ >>>>> http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php >>>> Lies. They won't show the raw data. >>>> >>> As any fool can see, you are wrong. >> >> Oh yeah? Just give the URL where it can be found. >> >> No, cooked data from NOAA doesn't count. Raw data only. All of it. >> Including the station listings that supposedly provide the final data. >> They won't provide it, and are being sued for it. >> >> And HADCRU? Oh yeah, they just in the past few hours admitted they >> destroyed it all. All raw data from 1988 and before, gone. > > Cite evidence. > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6936328.ece and http://spectator.org/blog/2009/11/24/climate-gate-development-cei-f -- Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
From: TUKA on 29 Nov 2009 01:36
On 2009-11-29, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > Marvin the Martian wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:10:24 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: >> >>> Marvin the Martian wrote: >>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:30:36 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hey Marvin--You need to start taking global climate change seriously. >>>> I do. I want to see criminal penalties for the frauds lied and said >>>> that it was warming when the earth was cooling. This is a trillion >>>> dollar scam. Perhaps put them on trial for high treason. >>>> >>>> You don't give a rip about scientific integrity nor about your country. >>> For some reason, you seem to believe that all climate data has been >>> doctored. In reality very little, if any has been "doctored". You >>> have yet to show a before and after "doctored" data set. >> >> You got a case of stupids that can't be cured. >> >> What part of "Jones' was telling the other frauds how to doctor their >> data" did you NOT understand? > > Cite your documentation. Sorry, bud. It's all over the news. Can't help if you don't read it. Your heroes are lying scumbags. Now *you* are the denier -- get it? -- Being against torture ought to be sort of a bipartisan thing. -- Karl Lehenbauer |