From: Sam Wormley on
Marvin the Martian wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:30:36 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>
>> Hey Marvin--You need to start taking global climate change seriously.
>
> I do. I want to see criminal penalties for the frauds lied and said that
> it was warming when the earth was cooling. This is a trillion dollar
> scam. Perhaps put them on trial for high treason.
>
> You don't give a rip about scientific integrity nor about your country.


Hacked climate emails called a "smear campaign"

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(SolveClimate) Three leading scientists who on Tuesday released a report documenting the
accelerating pace of climate change said the scandal that erupted last week over hacked
emails from climate scientists is nothing more than a "smear campaign" aimed at sabotaging
December climate talks in Copenhagen.

"We're facing an effort by special interests who are trying to confuse the public," said
Richard Somerville, Distinguished Professor Emeritus at Scripps Institution of
Oceanography and a lead author of the UN IPCC Fourth Assessment Report.

Dissenters see action to slow global warming as "a threat," he said.

The comments were made in a conference call for reporters.

The scientists—Somerville, Michael Mann of Penn State and Eric Steig of University of
Washington—were supposed to be discussing their new report, the Copenhagen Diagnosis, a
dismal update of the UN IPCC's 2007 climate data by 26 scientists from eight nations.

Instead they spent much of the time diffusing the hacker controversy, known in the media
as "Climate Gate."

The scandal began on November 20, when an unknown hacker stole at least 169 megabytes of
emails from computers at the prominent Climate Research Unit (CRU) of the University of
East Anglia and put them online for the world to see.

CRU is considered one of the world's leading institutions concerned with human-caused
global warming. The leaked emails contain private correspondence on climate science dating
back to 1996.

Skeptics of global warming say these messages are filled with evidence of manipulated data
from lead authors of the UN's highly influential IPCC reports.

more:
http://www.reuters.com/article/internal_ReutersNewsRoom_BehindTheScenes_MOLT/idUSTRE5AO4TW20091125


From: TUKA on
On 2009-11-29, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)mchsi.com> wrote:
> TUKA wrote:
>
>>
>> Sorry, bud. It's all over the news. Can't help if you don't read it.
>>
>> Your heroes are lying scumbags. Now *you* are the denier -- get it?
>>
>
>
> Hacked climate emails called a "smear campaign"
>
> http://www.reuters.com/article/internal_ReutersNewsRoom_BehindTheScenes_MOLT/idUSTRE5AO4TW20091125
>
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> by Stacy Feldman, SolveClimate solveclimate.com/
>
> (SolveClimate) Three leading scientists who on Tuesday released a report documenting the
> accelerating pace of climate change said the scandal that erupted last week over hacked
> emails from climate scientists is nothing more than a "smear campaign" aimed at sabotaging
> December climate talks in Copenhagen.
>
> "We're facing an effort by special interests who are trying to confuse the public," said
> Richard Somerville, Distinguished Professor Emeritus at Scripps Institution of
> Oceanography and a lead author of the UN IPCC Fourth Assessment Report.
>
> Dissenters see action to slow global warming as "a threat," he said.
>
> The comments were made in a conference call for reporters.
>
> The scientists?Somerville, Michael Mann of Penn State and Eric Steig of University of
> Washington?were supposed to be discussing their new report, the Copenhagen Diagnosis, a
> dismal update of the UN IPCC's 2007 climate data by 26 scientists from eight nations.
>
> Instead they spent much of the time diffusing the hacker controversy, known in the media
> as "Climate Gate."
>
> The scandal began on November 20, when an unknown hacker stole at least 169 megabytes of
> emails from computers at the prominent Climate Research Unit (CRU) of the University of
> East Anglia and put them online for the world to see.
>
> CRU is considered one of the world's leading institutions concerned with human-caused
> global warming. The leaked emails contain private correspondence on climate science dating
> back to 1996.
>
> Skeptics of global warming say these messages are filled with evidence of manipulated data
> from lead authors of the UN's highly influential IPCC reports.
>
> more:
> http://www.reuters.com/article/internal_ReutersNewsRoom_BehindTheScenes_MOLT/idUSTRE5AO4TW20091125

That article is days old, dufus.

THEY DESTROYED THE DATA. Don't you get it? The jig is up!

A smart person would be silent for a while. But you keep on digging yourself
deeper.

The CRU folks will be resigning soon. Jones, Mann, Wigley, Trenbarth,
all disgraced. Hansen will have to step smartly to avoid it, but he was on
his way out anyway.

The global warming zealots are on the run, thank goodness.

--
Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed. -- Francis Bacon
From: TUKA on
On 2009-11-29, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)mchsi.com> wrote:
> Marvin the Martian wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:30:36 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hey Marvin--You need to start taking global climate change seriously.
>>
>> I do. I want to see criminal penalties for the frauds lied and said that
>> it was warming when the earth was cooling. This is a trillion dollar
>> scam. Perhaps put them on trial for high treason.
>>
>> You don't give a rip about scientific integrity nor about your country.
>
>
> Hacked climate emails called a "smear campaign"
>
> http://www.reuters.com/article/internal_ReutersNewsRoom_BehindTheScenes_MOLT/idUSTRE5AO4TW20091125
>
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Four days old? In a story developing this fast? Are you mentally defective?

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are here we might as well dance. -- Anonymous
From: Sam Wormley on
Marvin the Martian wrote:
> Hackers have gotten into the (so called) University of East Anglia and
> gotten into their so called Climate "Research" Unit's servers and
> downloaded e-mails and documents that PROVE that they are liars and
> frauds that distort the data to fit their man made global warming lies.
>

NOT SO FAST THERE MARVIN!

Hacked climate emails called a "smear campaign"

http://www.reuters.com/article/internal_ReutersNewsRoom_BehindTheScenes_MOLT/idUSTRE5AO4TW20091125

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by Stacy Feldman, SolveClimate solveclimate.com/

(SolveClimate) Three leading scientists who on Tuesday released a report documenting the
accelerating pace of climate change said the scandal that erupted last week over hacked
emails from climate scientists is nothing more than a "smear campaign" aimed at sabotaging
December climate talks in Copenhagen.

"We're facing an effort by special interests who are trying to confuse the public," said
Richard Somerville, Distinguished Professor Emeritus at Scripps Institution of
Oceanography and a lead author of the UN IPCC Fourth Assessment Report.

Dissenters see action to slow global warming as "a threat," he said.

The comments were made in a conference call for reporters.

The scientists—Somerville, Michael Mann of Penn State and Eric Steig of University of
Washington—were supposed to be discussing their new report, the Copenhagen Diagnosis, a
dismal update of the UN IPCC's 2007 climate data by 26 scientists from eight nations.

Instead they spent much of the time diffusing the hacker controversy, known in the media
as "Climate Gate."

The scandal began on November 20, when an unknown hacker stole at least 169 megabytes of
emails from computers at the prominent Climate Research Unit (CRU) of the University of
East Anglia and put them online for the world to see.

CRU is considered one of the world's leading institutions concerned with human-caused
global warming. The leaked emails contain private correspondence on climate science dating
back to 1996.

Skeptics of global warming say these messages are filled with evidence of manipulated data
from lead authors of the UN's highly influential IPCC reports.

more:
http://www.reuters.com/article/internal_ReutersNewsRoom_BehindTheScenes_MOLT/idUSTRE5AO4TW20091125
From: Sam Wormley on
Marvin the Martian wrote:
> Hackers have gotten into the (so called) University of East Anglia and
> gotten into their so called Climate "Research" Unit's servers and
> downloaded e-mails and documents that PROVE that they are liars and
> frauds that distort the data to fit their man made global warming lies.
>
> Jones himself admits that the documents that were downloaded were his!
> Even as one of his e-mails he describes a "trick" he is using to change
> the data to support the Anthropogenic global warming lies. Jones boldly
> excuses this damning evidence by saying that lay people aren't able to
> understand what he said.
>
> This utterly disgraced "university" scrambles to call the hack a
> "criminal act", but ignore their own FRAUD against humanity. They have NO
> SHAME.
>
> Meanwhile, other conspirators in this global FRAUD are meeting in
> Copenhagen. Hopefully, the world court will capture them and put them on
> trial for crimes against humanity and trillion dollar fraud.
>
> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017451/climategate-
> how-the-msm-reported-the-greatest-scandal-in-modern-science/
>
> http://www.itproportal.com/security/news/article/2009/11/21/hackers-
> target-east-anglia-university-debunk-global-warming/
>
> http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2009/nov/homepagenews/CRU-update

Too Late -- Climate change: How global warming is having an impact
http://www.spacedaily.com/2006/091129012207.wdrqeoz7.html

PARIS, Nov 29 (AFP) Nov 29, 2009
From cautiously advising that man-made, heat-trapping carbon gases would disrupt Earth's
climate system, mainstream scientists are increasingly convinced that the first signs of
change are already here.
Following are the main indicators, reported in the scientific press over past three years:


RISING SEAS: Sea levels have risen in tandem with global warming, according to the UN's
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The global average sea level has risen
since 1961 at an average rate of 1.8mm (0.07 inches) per year, but accelerated from 1991
to 3.1mm (0.12 inches) per year. The IPCC estimated sea levels would rise 18-59
centimetres (7.2-23.2 inches) by 2100. But added runoff from melting land ice is
accelerating. According to Germany's Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK),
the global sea level is likely to rise at least twice as much as projected. If emissions
are not curbed, "it may well exceed one metre (3.25 feet)."


SHRINKING GLACIERS: Mountain glaciers and snow cover in both hemispheres have widely
retreated in the past few decades. One of the most closely-observed sites, the Cook
glacier on the southern Indian Ocean island of Kerguelen, has shrunk by a fifth in 40
years. Around 1.3 billion people depend on the water that flows down from Himalayan
glaciers, which in some places are falling back at up to 70 metres (230 feet) per year.
The snows capping Mount Kilimanjaro, Africa's tallest peak, could vanish entirely in 20
years, US experts reported this month.


SHIFTING SEASONS: Some species of birds and fish are shifting habitat in response to
warmer temperatures. The range of 105 bird species in France moved north, on average, 91
kilometres (56.5 miles) from 1989 to 2006. Average temperatures, however, shifted
northward 273 kilometres (170 miles) over the same period, nearly three times farther.
Twenty-one out of 36 species of fish in the North Sea migrated northwards between 1962 and
2001 in search of cooler waters. Anecdotal evidence from commercial fishermen says
once-exotic species of fish from warmer latitudes now inhabit southern British waters.


OCEAN ACIDIFICATION: The acidity of the seas is rising as oceans absorb more carbon
dioxide (CO2), with an impact on coral and micro-organisms, marine biologists say. Since
the start of the Industrial Revolution, the protective calcium shell of amoeba-like
organisms living in the Southern Ocean called foraminifera, a vital link in the food
chain, has fallen in weight by a third. "Within decades," acidification could severely
affect biodiversity and fisheries, 150 marine scientists jointly warned last January.


ARCTIC ICE: The Greenland ice sheet has lost 1,500 billion tonnes of ice since 2000,
contributing 0.75 mm (0.03 inch) annually to sea levels, according to a study published
this month. In 2009, the Arctic summer sea ice pack thawed to its third smallest size on
record, confirming a shrinkage trend seen over the past 30 years. Some experts believe the
Arctic ice cap will disappear completely in summer months within 20 to 30 years.


ANTARCTIC WARMING: The Antarctic peninsula has warmed by 2.5 degrees Celsius (4.5 degrees
Fahrenheit) in the last 50 years, around six times the global average. In the past 20
years, Antarctica has lost seven ice shelves -- huge floating ledges of ice, attached to
the shore, that are fed by glaciers.


PERMAFROST RETREAT: Emissions of the potent greenhouse gas methane were found to be
soaring at sites investigated in 2006 by University of Alaska scientists at lakes in
northern Siberia. The reason is thawing of the permafrost, causing the warmed soil to
release gas that had been stored for thousands of years. Billions of tonnes of methane,
which comes from natural sources such as decomposing vegetation and marshland, are stored
in the frozen lands of Siberia, Canada and Alaska.


CHANGED PRECIPITATION: Patterns of rainfall or snowfall increased "significantly" from
1900-2005 in eastern parts of North and South America, northern Europe and northern and
central Asia but declined in the Sahel, southern Africa and parts of southern Asia, says
the IPCC. "Globally, the area affected by drought has likely increased since the 1970s,"
it adds.


STORMS: A mooted link between climate change and extreme events has little scientific
consensus. A 2008 study by the Benfield UCL Hazard Research Centre at University College
London found that warmer seas accounted for 40 percent of a large increase (from six a
year to eight a year) in the number of Atlantic hurricanes from 1996-2005. Other
scientists say it is hard to say whether a drought, flood or cyclone is part of the longer
trend which is climate change or simply just a one-off event, or series of them.


SOURCES: IPCC 4th Assessment Report (2007); Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative
Research Center (Australia); Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK); Nature;
Science; Nature Geoscience; Laboratory for Studying Geophysics and Space Oceanography
(France); French National Museum of Natural History; Pen Hadow Arctic expedition; US
National Snow and Ice Data Center; British Antarctic Survey (BAS); University of Alaska at
Fairbanks.