Hackers Catch Prove Global Warming Fraud
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From: columbiaaccidentinvestigation on 29 Nov 2009 12:44 On Nov 29, 9:27 am, Marvin the Martian <mar...(a)ontomars.org> wrote: > On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:22:02 -0800, columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > > On Nov 28, 9:50 pm, Marvin the Martian <mar...(a)ontomars.org> wrote: > >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:30:36 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: > >> > Hey Marvin--You need to start taking global climate change seriously.. > > >> I do. I want to see criminal penalties for the frauds lied and said > >> that it was warming when the earth was cooling. This is a trillion > >> dollar scam. Perhaps put them on trial for high treason. > > >> You don't give a rip about scientific integrity nor about your country.. > > > and what about cyber crime? > > Let's see... A trillion dollar treasonous scam on one side. > > Downloading files and putting them on a website to expose that crime on > the other ... when it is known that the criminals intended to (and did) > delete the evidence when faced with a Freedom of Information act order to > hand it over. > > These "hackers" (if it wasn't an inside job) just saved the damned world > from you nutjobs. What they did was entirely justified. Once again, your rational fails. You present no rule of law, just a rationalization based on your opinions, where does it stop?
From: columbiaaccidentinvestigation on 29 Nov 2009 12:46 On Nov 29, 7:46 am, Robert Higgins <robert_higgins...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 29, 10:22 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation > > <columbiaaccidentinvestigat...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > On Nov 28, 9:50 pm, Marvin the Martian <mar...(a)ontomars.org> wrote: > > > > On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:30:36 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: > > > > Hey Marvin--You need to start taking global climate change seriously. > > > > I do. I want to see criminal penalties for the frauds lied and said that > > > it was warming when the earth was cooling. This is a trillion dollar > > > scam. Perhaps put them on trial for high treason. > > > > You don't give a rip about scientific integrity nor about your country. > > > and what about cyber crime? > > What about it? Do you support the vigorous prosecution of every > newspaper reporter that "finds" classified or private documents? Or > only those whose political views disagree with your own? i have had to abide by the law when conducting my own investigation, thats what i am basing my argument on. I do not condone cybercrime, so i would have you expand on the words "finds" in your above statement, as to how it relates to the work of a hacker.
From: Robert Higgins on 29 Nov 2009 13:01 On Nov 29, 12:46 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation <columbiaaccidentinvestigat...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Nov 29, 7:46 am, Robert Higgins <robert_higgins...(a)hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > On Nov 29, 10:22 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation > > > <columbiaaccidentinvestigat...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On Nov 28, 9:50 pm, Marvin the Martian <mar...(a)ontomars.org> wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:30:36 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: > > > > > Hey Marvin--You need to start taking global climate change seriously. > > > > > I do. I want to see criminal penalties for the frauds lied and said that > > > > it was warming when the earth was cooling. This is a trillion dollar > > > > scam. Perhaps put them on trial for high treason. > > > > > You don't give a rip about scientific integrity nor about your country. > > > > and what about cyber crime? > > > What about it? Do you support the vigorous prosecution of every > > newspaper reporter that "finds" classified or private documents? Or > > only those whose political views disagree with your own? > > i have had to abide by the law when conducting my own investigation, > thats what i am basing my argument on. I do not condone cybercrime, > so i would have you expand on the words "finds" in your above > statement, as to how it relates to the work of a hacker. You're joking, right? When the New York Times or Washington Post publishes classified data, how do you think it gets it in the first place? Don't you know that leaking classified intel is a crime? Yet how many people have been prosecuted for leaking? Who was prosecuted for leaking info on terrorist renditions, or the "black prisons"? If some sells me a VCR for 10 bucks, saying it "fell off a truck", I can (and will be) prosecuted for receiving stolen property. If a New York Times reporter gets the same deal on a stack of documents, every reporter from here to Kalamazoo will invoke privileges. Almost every significant investigation involves such practices, without which the press wold accomplish little. Unless, of course, the story smacks down the Left, in which case everyone becomes outraged. Are you seriously suggesting that newspapers don't traffic in hacked or stolen documents all the time?
From: Sam Wormley on 29 Nov 2009 13:55 Marvin the Martian wrote: > On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:40:03 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: > > > Climatological cooling over a 30 year period (30 years is the norm >> in climatology) does no show up in the data. >> >> CO2 increase, Global Temperature increase, Sea Level >> increase, are all consistent with each other. Real >> impact is showing up in agriculture, ecosystems, weather >> patterns, shifting seasons and ice melting. >> >> The global data CLEARLY shows: >> >> Human contributed increase in green house gas CO2 >> http://edu-observatory.org/olli/800000yrs_CO2.png >> http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/10/16/0907094106 >> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091023163513.htm >> >> Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase >> http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif >> >> And accompanying Sea Level Rise >> >> http://www.wildwildweather.com/forecastblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/700px-recent_sea_level_rise.png >> >> There are many sources of good data >> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/ >> http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php >> >> Here's some data from Iowa State University >> http://www.meteor.iastate.edu/faculty/takle/presentations.html >> >> More from University of Iowa >> http://www.engineering.uiowa.edu/faculty-staff/profile-directory/cee/schnoor_j.php >> >> Franzen - The Chemistry and Physics of Global Climate Change >> http://hfranzen.org/ >> http://www.hfranzen.org/Global_Warming.pd > > > That's all you got? Mindless cut and pastes of stuff that I've already > debunked? > > You're not embarrassed by that at all, are you? > > Can you even admit that the hacked e-mails show fraud? Try it. Stick to > the damned subject. > > Answer these two questions, without a cut and paste from one of your bot > replies. > > Do the East Anglia e-mails show that there is global cooling or not? Global warming is happening independent of emails. The impact of increasing temperature is showing up in many way in many parts of the world. I don't really care much about the East Anglia e-mails. > > Do the East Anglia E-mails show that there is an intentional hiding of > the cooling? > There is no cooling to hide, Marvin. You would do well to start taking global climate change seriously.
From: TUKA on 29 Nov 2009 14:04
On 2009-11-29, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > Marvin the Martian wrote: >> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:40:03 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote: >> >> > Climatological cooling over a 30 year period (30 years is the norm >>> in climatology) does no show up in the data. >>> >>> CO2 increase, Global Temperature increase, Sea Level >>> increase, are all consistent with each other. Real >>> impact is showing up in agriculture, ecosystems, weather >>> patterns, shifting seasons and ice melting. >>> >>> The global data CLEARLY shows: >>> >>> Human contributed increase in green house gas CO2 >>> http://edu-observatory.org/olli/800000yrs_CO2.png >>> http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/10/16/0907094106 >>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091023163513.htm >>> >>> Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase >>> http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif >>> >>> And accompanying Sea Level Rise >>> >>> http://www.wildwildweather.com/forecastblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/700px-recent_sea_level_rise.png >>> >>> There are many sources of good data >>> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/ >>> http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php >>> >>> Here's some data from Iowa State University >>> http://www.meteor.iastate.edu/faculty/takle/presentations.html >>> >>> More from University of Iowa >>> http://www.engineering.uiowa.edu/faculty-staff/profile-directory/cee/schnoor_j.php >>> >>> Franzen - The Chemistry and Physics of Global Climate Change >>> http://hfranzen.org/ >>> http://www.hfranzen.org/Global_Warming.pd >> >> >> That's all you got? Mindless cut and pastes of stuff that I've already >> debunked? >> >> You're not embarrassed by that at all, are you? >> >> Can you even admit that the hacked e-mails show fraud? Try it. Stick to >> the damned subject. >> >> Answer these two questions, without a cut and paste from one of your bot >> replies. >> >> Do the East Anglia e-mails show that there is global cooling or not? > > Global warming is happening independent of emails. How do you know? The data that the IPCC and most every other climate researcher was basing their stuff on is shown to be compromised. It can't be relied on until it is fully vetted. They have deleted the raw data. > The impact of increasing temperature is showing up in many way in > many parts of the world. I don't really care much about the East > Anglia e-mails. You don't care much about science if you don't. -- Alas for those who never sing, but die with all their music in them. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. |