From: Marvin the Martian on
On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:19:28 -0800, tunderbar wrote:

> On Nov 28, 9:22 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote:

> idiot

True enough. Mr. Wormley has some logical impairment.

The subject is how Hackers found smoking gun evidence that the AGW
climate researchers doctored the data to show warming when there was
cooling. P.D. Jones himself says in an e-mail that the raw data shows
cooling and he used a "trick" to make it show warming.

Wormley keeps repeating their now discredited data as some sort of excuse
for doctoring that very same data. It would be a funny mistake if it
happened once, but it has happened several times now.

Nor has Wormley said that doctoring data, boycotting journals to get them
to publish only ONE view, doing biased peer review, slandering and
defaming anyone who disagrees with them, and threatening physical
violence to those who disagrees is in any way counter to the scientific
method and the spirit of true and honest scientific inquiry.
From: Marvin the Martian on
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:30:36 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote:


> Hey Marvin--You need to start taking global climate change seriously.

I do. I want to see criminal penalties for the frauds lied and said that
it was warming when the earth was cooling. This is a trillion dollar
scam. Perhaps put them on trial for high treason.

You don't give a rip about scientific integrity nor about your country.
From: Sam Wormley on
Marvin the Martian wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:27:25 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote:

>>
>> Climate Data
>> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/
>
> You're not grasping the concept.
>
> The e-mails show that the data's been doctored to show warming where
> there is cooling.

For some reason, you seem to believe that all climate data has
been doctored. In reality very little, if any has been "doctored".
You have yet to show a before and after "doctored" data set.

The global data CLEARLY shows:

Human contributed increase in green house gas CO2
http://edu-observatory.org/olli/800000yrs_CO2.png
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/10/16/0907094106
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091023163513.htm

Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase
http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif

And accompanying Sea Level Rise
http://www.wildwildweather.com/forecastblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/700px-recent_sea_level_rise.png

There are many sources of good data, Marvin
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php

Marvin, you REALLY need to start taking this global climate
change seriously. Seriously!
From: Sam Wormley on
Marvin the Martian wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:30:36 +0000, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>
>> Hey Marvin--You need to start taking global climate change seriously.
>
> I do. I want to see criminal penalties for the frauds lied and said that
> it was warming when the earth was cooling. This is a trillion dollar
> scam. Perhaps put them on trial for high treason.
>
> You don't give a rip about scientific integrity nor about your country.

For some reason, you seem to believe that all climate data has
been doctored. In reality very little, if any has been "doctored".
You have yet to show a before and after "doctored" data set.

The global data CLEARLY shows:

Human contributed increase in green house gas CO2
http://edu-observatory.org/olli/800000yrs_CO2.png
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/10/16/0907094106
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091023163513.htm

Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase
http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif

And accompanying Sea Level Rise
http://www.wildwildweather.com/forecastblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/700px-recent_sea_level_rise.png

There are many sources of good data, Marvin
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php

Marvin, you REALLY need to start taking this global climate
change seriously. Seriously!

From: Sam Wormley on
Marvin the Martian wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:19:28 -0800, tunderbar wrote:
>
>> On Nov 28, 9:22 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>> idiot
>
> True enough. Mr. Wormley has some logical impairment.
>
> The subject is how Hackers found smoking gun evidence that the AGW
> climate researchers doctored the data to show warming when there was
> cooling. P.D. Jones himself says in an e-mail that the raw data shows
> cooling and he used a "trick" to make it show warming.
>
> Wormley keeps repeating their now discredited data as some sort of excuse
> for doctoring that very same data. It would be a funny mistake if it
> happened once, but it has happened several times now.
>
> Nor has Wormley said that doctoring data, boycotting journals to get them
> to publish only ONE view, doing biased peer review, slandering and
> defaming anyone who disagrees with them, and threatening physical
> violence to those who disagrees is in any way counter to the scientific
> method and the spirit of true and honest scientific inquiry.


The global data CLEARLY shows:

Human contributed increase in green house gas CO2
http://edu-observatory.org/olli/800000yrs_CO2.png
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/10/16/0907094106
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091023163513.htm

Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase
http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif

And accompanying Sea Level Rise
http://www.wildwildweather.com/forecastblog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/700px-recent_sea_level_rise.png

There are many sources of good data, Marvin
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php

Marvin, you REALLY need to start taking this global climate
change seriously. Seriously!