From: Jan Panteltje on 28 Dec 2009 18:53 On a sunny day (Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:41:12 +0000) it happened Baron <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in <hhbfn3$98h$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>: >Jan Panteltje Inscribed thus: > >> On a sunny day (Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:30:29 +0000) it happened Dirk >> Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote in >> <7psps4F37nU1(a)mid.individual.net>: >> >>>Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>> On a sunny day (Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:07:39 -0500) it happened PeterD >>>> <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote in >>>> <m97ij5d0fm7fh4j8tj74mbave2lapks226(a)4ax.com>: >>>>> But if we go back to the original point, that a bullet hole will >>>>> cause a plane to explode because it is pressurized, >>>> >>>> I do not think tha tever was the original point. >>>> Not even in Goldfinger. >>> >>>Myth Busters tried it. >>>A bullet hole will not cause structural failure in an airliner. >>>Nor will anyone get sucked out through a small window. >> >> Goldfinger was big and fat, so it was a big window, >> else he would not have fit through it. >> :-) > >Yea, but it made good cinema though... Oh yes, I have it on disk :-)
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 28 Dec 2009 18:54 Jan Panteltje wrote: > On a sunny day (Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:30:29 +0000) it happened Dirk Bruere at > NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote in <7psps4F37nU1(a)mid.individual.net>: > >> Jan Panteltje wrote: >>> On a sunny day (Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:07:39 -0500) it happened PeterD >>> <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote in <m97ij5d0fm7fh4j8tj74mbave2lapks226(a)4ax.com>: >>>> But if we go back to the original point, that a bullet hole will cause >>>> a plane to explode because it is pressurized, >>> I do not think tha tever was the original point. >>> Not even in Goldfinger. >> Myth Busters tried it. >> A bullet hole will not cause structural failure in an airliner. >> Nor will anyone get sucked out through a small window. > > Goldfinger was big and fat, so it was a big window, > else he would not have fit through it. > :-) I have heard of some fat woman getting her innards sucked out while flushing the loo at 30,000 ft. at the same time as making an airtight fit. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 28 Dec 2009 18:57 Jim Yanik wrote: > PeterD <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote in > news:gj7ij51vmnse9ntkse2e33hk5383hfooko(a)4ax.com: > >> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:07:16 -0600, Jim Yanik <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> >> wrote: >> >>> PeterD <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote in >>> news:5mchj511rd1qmeoerbjn3rqsig41av2reh(a)4ax.com: >>>> Consider this, both Ried <sp?> and this latest lunatic failed >>>> completely--one would think they'd get the message: "I don't want you >>>> blowing up or killing innocent people..." -- God. >>>> >>> THEY failed,but the next guy may not. >>> They DID succeed in getting their bombs on board,and "detonating" them. >>> >>> LUCKILY,their bombs didn't work. Just good LUCK. >>> >>> But searching old ladies and making everyone go thru lengthy lines is >>> ridiculous;they need to PROFILE and closely search the most likely >>> suspects. >> WHat is worrysome is that there are few if any ways to 'test' for >> explosives such as this... >> >> Personaly I think that we should all be required to fly in the nude, > > Personally,I don't think you thought at all on that one. > >> with NO carryon baggage allowed. That would resolve so many things, >> eliminate virtualliy all risks... A simple metal detector for internal >> metal would suffice. >> >> Next we'll be seeing bombs either swallowed or surgically implanted. > > I'd rather they PROFILED passengers first. > It works for Israel and El Al Airlines. > Of course,THEY take it seriously. > Well, all you have to do is guess what is worse than a small amount of explosive on a plane and you can see where the next "unexpected" attack is coming from. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 28 Dec 2009 18:58 Jim Yanik wrote: > PeterD <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote in > news:ih7ij590bn4mvctiagsi6octr83ga53sdo(a)4ax.com: > >> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:05:27 -0600, Vladimir Vassilevsky >> <nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> PeterD wrote: >>> >>>> Consider this, both Ried <sp?> and this latest lunatic failed >>>> completely--one would think they'd get the message: "I don't want you >>>> blowing up or killing innocent people..." -- God. >>> That raises another question: if plane bombing is really such big of an >>> issue. How many planes were blown? How it compares to hijacks, >>> accidents, etc? >>> >>> VLV >> How can we know? In most cases they well might be unexplained, >> especially if over water. But we do know it has happened, at least one >> time. >> > > ISTR a plane from (or to) the Phillipines was a "test run" for the bombers. > Another one,ISTR a Japanese guy got blown thru the fuselage by a bomb. > > If the terrorists ever engineer a working bomb,they would do a lot more > plane bombings,of course. Probably all on the same day,just like on 9-11. Their technical incompetence never ceases to amaze me. And that's just their engineering graduates. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 28 Dec 2009 19:00
Don Klipstein wrote: > In article <gj7ij51vmnse9ntkse2e33hk5383hfooko(a)4ax.com>, PeterD wrote: >> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:07:16 -0600, Jim Yanik <jyanik(a)abuse.gov> >> wrote: >> >>> PeterD <peter2(a)hipson.net> wrote in >>> news:5mchj511rd1qmeoerbjn3rqsig41av2reh(a)4ax.com: >>>> Consider this, both Ried <sp?> and this latest lunatic failed >>>> completely--one would think they'd get the message: "I don't want you >>>> blowing up or killing innocent people..." -- God. >>>> >>> THEY failed,but the next guy may not. >>> They DID succeed in getting their bombs on board,and "detonating" them. >>> >>> LUCKILY,their bombs didn't work. Just good LUCK. >>> >>> But searching old ladies and making everyone go thru lengthy lines is >>> ridiculous;they need to PROFILE and closely search the most likely >>> suspects. >> WHat is worrysome is that there are few if any ways to 'test' for >> explosives such as this... >> >> Personaly I think that we should all be required to fly in the nude, >> with NO carryon baggage allowed. That would resolve so many things, >> eliminate virtualliy all risks... A simple metal detector for internal >> metal would suffice. >> >> Next we'll be seeing bombs either swallowed or surgically implanted. > > How about that concrete-walled RF blaster on the way to the plane? > Nude bomb-carrier gets a closed-casket funeral, cremation or a memorial > service, and the offender's next-of-kin gets a bill for scraping from > the "detonating room" surfaces and cleanup and collecting the offender's > remains! > > Nude passengers should have the option of having their clothes inspected > and cleared to wear on board as opposed to being diverted to the luggage > hold, or at least renting cleared clothes from the airline or TSA. They > may have embarassing non-explosive body features, and USA has a lot of > airline passengers who would refuse to fly nude for religious reasons. I > suspect the airlines would get in or successfully lobby for a way to keep > such people as fare-paying passengers. > > Keep in mind that the 9-11 hijackers did not have bombs, but boxcutters. > > Maybe flight attendants need martial arts training and training in use > of handguns and to get concealed carry permits and be allowed to put > handguns (with hollowpoint or fragmenting bullets) to use on board planes? > > - Don Klipstein (don(a)misty.com) Good idea. That way the terrorists don't have to bring their own guns. The only safe thing to do is strap all passengers in and lock them down and not take off until they are all anesthetized. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show |