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From: Robert Montgomery on 25 Oct 2009 22:08 Michelle Steiner wrote: > In article > <nospam.m-m-18FC96.21185525102009(a)cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com>, > M-M <nospam.m-m(a)ny.more> wrote: > >>> You can set up an AirPort wireless network in minutes, without special >>> tools." >>> >>> The router is connected with a cable to the Imac, >> Right. It says right there that you *don't* connect your computer to the >> internet with a cable, and that is what you did anyhow. >> >> You need to bring your cable into the room with the speakers. > > No he doesn't. All he should need to do is connect the Airport Express via > WiFi with the wireless router. > > I think that the problem may be that AirTunes requires an Airport Extreme, > Time Capsule, or another Airport Express as the router, and will not work > with any third-party wireless router. On the Apple Web site at http://www.apple.com/findouthow/mac/#wirelessmusic > Wireless > Streaming music wirelessly, there's a video that shows how to set up wireless music playing. It's true that it doesn't show a router, but I've been reading extensively about this topic and nowhere have I read that having a router attached to the Mac would interfere with Airtunes. Routers or modems are standard with desktop computers; you need one to connect a desktop computer to the Internet, so I'm sure there would be lots of documentation about this if routers caused interference. Robert
From: David Empson on 25 Oct 2009 22:44 Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <ww7Fm.50276$PH1.766(a)edtnps82>, > Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote: > > > It's true that it doesn't show a router, but I've been reading > > extensively about this topic and nowhere have I read that having a > > router attached to the Mac would interfere with Airtunes. > > > > Routers or modems are standard with desktop computers; you need one to > > connect a desktop computer to the Internet, so I'm sure there would be > > lots of documentation about this if routers caused interference. > > It is not a matter of interference; a wireless router is necessary, but I > believe that it has to be an Apple branded wireless router. It doesn't. I know several people who use an Airport Express in combination with a non-Apple primary router. The problem in this case MIGHT be that Robert is trying to use the Airport Express to create an independent wireless network, and connect the iMac to that network at the same time as connecting the iMac via Ethernet to the D-Link DSL-604+ router. This is implied by the earlier mention of a wireless network called "Base Station 08Cc999", which is the default name for a wireless network created by an Apple Airport base station. This configuration could confuse things, as the iMac might lose track of which network is being used to access the Airport Express, especially if the two networks have been set up to use the same range of IP addresses. As the D-Link is a wireless router, the best configuration would be to set up the D-Link to create a wireless network, the Airport Express to "Join" that wireless network, and turn off Airport on the iMac (also turn off Internet Sharing - it is only confusing the situation and won't help). This will result in the iMac having a single active network connection (Ethernet to the D-Link), and it will access the Airport Express via that network. The D-Link will forward (bridge) all traffic between Ethernet and WiFi as required for the Airport Express and iMac to talk to each other. -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: Robert Montgomery on 25 Oct 2009 22:55 David Empson wrote: > Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > >> In article <ww7Fm.50276$PH1.766(a)edtnps82>, >> Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote: >> >>> It's true that it doesn't show a router, but I've been reading >>> extensively about this topic and nowhere have I read that having a >>> router attached to the Mac would interfere with Airtunes. >>> >>> Routers or modems are standard with desktop computers; you need one to >>> connect a desktop computer to the Internet, so I'm sure there would be >>> lots of documentation about this if routers caused interference. >> It is not a matter of interference; a wireless router is necessary, but I >> believe that it has to be an Apple branded wireless router. > > It doesn't. I know several people who use an Airport Express in > combination with a non-Apple primary router. > > The problem in this case MIGHT be that Robert is trying to use the > Airport Express to create an independent wireless network, and connect > the iMac to that network at the same time as connecting the iMac via > Ethernet to the D-Link DSL-604+ router. > > This is implied by the earlier mention of a wireless network called > "Base Station 08Cc999", which is the default name for a wireless network > created by an Apple Airport base station. > > This configuration could confuse things, as the iMac might lose track of > which network is being used to access the Airport Express, especially if > the two networks have been set up to use the same range of IP addresses. > > As the D-Link is a wireless router, the best configuration would be to > set up the D-Link to create a wireless network, the Airport Express to > "Join" that wireless network, and turn off Airport on the iMac (also > turn off Internet Sharing - it is only confusing the situation and won't > help). > > This will result in the iMac having a single active network connection > (Ethernet to the D-Link), and it will access the Airport Express via > that network. The D-Link will forward (bridge) all traffic between > Ethernet and WiFi as required for the Airport Express and iMac to talk > to each other. Thanks, David. How could I set up the D-Link 604+ router to create a wireless network? Robert
From: nospam on 25 Oct 2009 23:08 In article <kc8Fm.50280$PH1.24512(a)edtnps82>, Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote: > > As the D-Link is a wireless router, the best configuration would be to > > set up the D-Link to create a wireless network, the Airport Express to > > "Join" that wireless network, and turn off Airport on the iMac (also > > turn off Internet Sharing - it is only confusing the situation and won't > > help). > > > > This will result in the iMac having a single active network connection > > (Ethernet to the D-Link), and it will access the Airport Express via > > that network. The D-Link will forward (bridge) all traffic between > > Ethernet and WiFi as required for the Airport Express and iMac to talk > > to each other. > > How could I set up the D-Link 604+ router to create a wireless network? google says that's an old router which only supports 802.11b and wep. you would be *far* better off hardwiring the airport express to your existing network and using the airport for a wifi network, particularly if you have the latest 802.11n version of the express. even if you have the older 802.11g version, you are *still* ahead. be sure to disable wifi on the d-link, but leave dhcp on so the airport can get an ip address. use the airport config wizard to set up a new wifi network (it's really bridge mode but i forget what apple calls it). pick wpa for security, along with a long passphrase.
From: Robert Montgomery on 25 Oct 2009 23:40
nospam wrote: > In article <kc8Fm.50280$PH1.24512(a)edtnps82>, Robert Montgomery > <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote: > >>> As the D-Link is a wireless router, the best configuration would be to >>> set up the D-Link to create a wireless network, the Airport Express to >>> "Join" that wireless network, and turn off Airport on the iMac (also >>> turn off Internet Sharing - it is only confusing the situation and won't >>> help). >>> >>> This will result in the iMac having a single active network connection >>> (Ethernet to the D-Link), and it will access the Airport Express via >>> that network. The D-Link will forward (bridge) all traffic between >>> Ethernet and WiFi as required for the Airport Express and iMac to talk >>> to each other. >> How could I set up the D-Link 604+ router to create a wireless network? > > google says that's an old router which only supports 802.11b and wep. > > you would be *far* better off hardwiring the airport express to your > existing network and using the airport for a wifi network, particularly > if you have the latest 802.11n version of the express. even if you have > the older 802.11g version, you are *still* ahead. > > be sure to disable wifi on the d-link, but leave dhcp on so the airport > can get an ip address. use the airport config wizard to set up a new > wifi network (it's really bridge mode but i forget what apple calls > it). pick wpa for security, along with a long passphrase. Thanks, nospam. How can I disable wifi on the d-link? I looked at the d-link's configuration page, but I don't see wifi there. I hard-wired the setup by connecting an Ethernet cable between the Express and the D-Link, but that caused the Internet connection to be cut. Robert |