Imac in one room, speaker(s) another
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From: Robert Montgomery on 28 Oct 2009 11:57 David Empson wrote: > Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote: > >> David Empson wrote: >>> Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: >>> >>>> In article <251020092008084122%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>, >>>> nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> How could I set up the D-Link 604+ router to create a wireless >>>>>> network? >>>>> google says that's an old router which only supports 802.11b and wep. >>>>> >>>>> you would be *far* better off hardwiring the airport express to your >>>>> existing network and using the airport for a wifi network, particularly >>>>> if you have the latest 802.11n version of the express. even if you have >>>>> the older 802.11g version, you are *still* ahead. >>>> The problem with that is that he AE needs to be in the other room to >>>> connect to the speakers. >>> Upgrading to a more modern wireless router and getting the Airport >>> Express to join its network (as I described earlier) would be the best >>> solution. >>> >>> If the Airport Express creates a wireless network and the iMac is >>> connected to both that network and the D-Link, you may be able to get it >>> working reliably, but everything has to be configured carefully. >>> >>> You will effectively be setting up two separate IP networks. The D-Link >>> and Mac form one network, and the Airport Express and Mac form a >>> separate network. The two networks must use different ranges of IP >>> addresses so the Mac knows which interface to use. >> I think I'd rather buy a new router. > > You will just need to make one setting change on the Airport Express, > and possibly one on the iMac. > >>> (I'd expect the LED on the Airport Express to be blinking orange in this >>> configuration, because it will be complaining about not having anything >>> plugged into its Ethernet port.) >>> >>> The key question: what IP address range is the D-Link supplying via its >>> DHCP server? >> The D-Link 604+ configuration > Advanced page for DHCP says: >> >> Starting IP address: 192.168.0.2 >> Ending IP address: 192.168.0.33 > > Given that, you need to configure the Airport Express to NOT use > addresses starting with 192.168.0. Pick any other option, such as > 192.168.2 (just to avoid any possible conflict with a future router you > get which might use 192.168.1). You could also use any address range > starting with 10. > > I suggest configuring the Aiport Express DHCP server to alocate > addresses in the range 192.168.2.2 through 192.168.2.99 (for example). > The Airport Express will be 192.168.2.1. > > That gives you the option of being able to configure the iMac's Airport > interface to use a static address of 192.168.2.100 (up to > 192.168.2.254), if it turns out this is necessary for reliable > operation. Thanks, David. Those instructions are unclear to me. For example, I've scoured my D-Link configuration pages, and nowhere there does it says "Airport Express DHCP server" or "Airport Express". What exactly would I type, and where? Robert
From: Robert Montgomery on 28 Oct 2009 12:03 Jolly Roger wrote: > In article <64lFm.49489$Db2.38027(a)edtnps83>, > Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote: > >> Jolly Roger wrote: >>> In article <201Fm.49304$Db2.15349(a)edtnps83>, >>> Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Jolly Roger wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do you get the message if you turn off the firewall on this computer? >>>> When I turn off the firewall, and then click in Itunes on "Robert's >>>> Airport Express" in the popup window in Itunes's lower, right corner, I >>>> then no longer get the ""Your computer's firewall settings >>>> >>> prevent you from using Airtunes" message, but I still get the >>>> Airtunes' "Connecting to Robert's Airport Express" window with the >>>> horizontal barbershop pole that keeps moving for a few minutes before it >>>> goes away, and there's still no check mark beside "Robert's Airport >>>> Express" in Itunes, so I turned the firewall back on. >>> Why? >> The same reason as everyone else who uses a firewall, obviously: to >> protect against enemy fire. >> >> All of the information I've read says to keep the shields up at all times. > > That's silly. Your D-Link router has a firewall. There's no need to run > two firewalls back to back like that. I didn't know that. I just searched on the Web and found out that the D-Link 604+ does indeed have a firewall. I'm impressed with your knowledge, Jolly. But I just checked my D-Link's configuration page, and it says that the firewall is disabled. And I'm afraid to change my firewall settings. Are you sure that I can activate the D-Link's firewall, and disable my Imac's firewall, without any bad consequences? Robert
From: Robert Montgomery on 28 Oct 2009 12:44 Jolly Roger wrote: > In article <1u9Fm.50284$PH1.46216(a)edtnps82>, > Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote: > >> I'm tempted to give up my dream of getting music to play in the >> adjoining room. I just spent the last two days on this problem. Now I'm >> being told I have to embark on an entirely new tack � one which, I'm >> sure � will be fraught with lots more difficulties, especially because >> what you're proposing sounds like jerry-rigging, so there's probably not >> much documentation available. >> >> If I have to buy a new router, I have to deal with all the headaches >> that will surely ensue. The more I try to solve this problem, the more >> problematic it becomes. > > It's not nearly as complicated as you make it out to be. No offense > intended, but you're having this much trouble because you're making > decisions out of ignorance. > >> If I were to buy a new router, would this one be good? It's price is >> low: http://www.dlink.ca/products/?pid=478 > > Have you considered the "lowest price" may not be exactly conducive to > "just works"? Yes. That's why I asked for opinions about that router. > I would think the plug-and-play nature of Apple's Airport Extreme router > would be quite attractive to someone who obviously doesn't know much > about networking! Is that so? I didn't know the Airport Extreme is a router. The Apple Web site (http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/features/frequency.html) doesn't identify the Airport Extreme as a router. It identifies it as a device for "wirelsss network users" and as a "base station". I didn't know that "base station" is synonymous with "router". Are you sure that an Airport Extreme would replace the D-Link 604+ router without any negative side effects? Advice must be clear for me to comprehend it. (Remember: I was advised by some folks that if I have a wireless connection, I needed to buy only powered speakers, an Airport Express and a cable to run between them, to get music to play in the next room, and that turned out not be be the case. It's been made clear by this thread that I must additionally either buy a more modern router, or fiddle with the delicate network settings on my current D-Link router and maybe Imac, too.) I thought I already have a wireless connection, because I was able to wirelessly connect my Imac with a PC in the next room, so I must have misunderstood what was meant by having a wireless connection. I didn't know that "having a wireless connection" can mean two totally different things. Robert
From: James Dale Guckert on 28 Oct 2009 15:25 On Oct 28, 9:44 am, Robert Montgomery <info-bl...(a)northern-data- tech.net> wrote: > (Remember: I was advised by some folks that if I have a wireless > connection, I needed to buy only powered speakers, an Airport Express > and a cable to run between them, to get music to play in the next room, You don't even need a wireless connection if your iMac has an Airport (or Airport Extreme) card installed. I have an old "desk-lamp" iMac with the Airport card installed (it wouldn't take the Extreme), I am connected to the 'Net via an ethernet connection from my DSL modem, and I use an Airport Express to pipe music to my stereo in another room. The problems you are having have nothing to do with a lack of equipment. I do have a wireless router as well, but that's for giving a laptop computer access to the Internet.
From: M-M on 28 Oct 2009 18:24
In article <Fx_Fm.50578$PH1.27455(a)edtnps82>, Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote: > Is that so? I didn't know the Airport Extreme is a router. The Apple Web > site (http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/features/frequency.html) > doesn't identify the Airport Extreme as a router. It identifies it as a > device for "wirelsss network users" and as a "base station". I didn't > know that "base station" is synonymous with "router". base station = router -- m-m http://www.mhmyers.com |