From: Robert Montgomery on
David Empson wrote:
> Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:
>
>> David Empson wrote:
>>
>>> What sort of connection does your D-Link have to the Internet?

>> How can I find out? I checked my router's configuration data in a
>> browser, and System Profiler, but I can't translate the geekese there
>> into regular English.
>
> How does it physically plug into the Internet? What sort of cable is
> used between the D-Link and the Internet, and what is the socket on the
> D-Link labelled?

The socket is labeled "ADSL". The cord in that socket is a phone cord,
which leads to a five-way phone jack splitter. The main cord of the
phone jack splitter leads to a phone jack in a wall.

> Does that cable plug into some other device? If so, what is the brand
> and model of that device, how is the socket to the D-Link labelled, and
> what does the connection look like between that device and the Internet?

No other device.

> Note the subtle difference between telephone sockets and Ethernet
> sockets. The US uses RJ-11 (six pin) telephone sockets, though only two
> of those pins are used. Ethernet uses RJ-45 (eight pin) sockets which
> are similar in appearance but wider.

I see what you mean. Thanks for the detailed explanation. Only one of
the four Ethernet sockets is used. It's got a cable leading to my Imac.

> If the D-Link plugs into a standard telephone socket, possibly via small
> device mentioning "Filter" or similar, with sockets labelled PHONE and
> COMPUTER (or DSL, or DATA) then you have a DSL connection (it might
> mention ADSL, VDSL or SDSL somewhere).
>
> The D-Link may also have DSL in its model name, or mention one of these
> terms in its description on the device, or the web interface, or the
> user manual.

The machine says "Wireless ADSL Router" on it.

Robert
From: Robert Montgomery on
Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <AQYGm.49993$Db2.32961(a)edtnps83>,
> Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I'm still using the D-Link. And yes, I configured the Express
>> correctly. I plugged it into an outlet in a room that's next to the
>> Imac. I plugged a cord from the Express into the powered speakers. And I
>> plugged the powered speakers into an outlet.
>
> If the Airport Express is configured correctly, when you run Airport
> Utility on your Mac, you will see the Airport Express in the list on the
> left side of the window.

Well, I did have it listed there a few times before, but it's not there
now. I gave up trying to set it up again with my current configuration,
because it's been revealed here that I should either change my settings
somehow to avoid the conflict of having both the router and the Express
sending out DHCP IP addresses, or get a more up-to-date router.

I don't know how to change the router settings to avoid the IP address
conflict, so I decided to buy a new router to replace my old D-Link.

Is there a good brand of router that's cheaper than the Apple Extremes?

Robert
From: Robert Montgomery on
Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <Fx_Fm.50578$PH1.27455(a)edtnps82>,
> Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:

>>>> If I were to buy a new router, would this one be good? It's price is
>>>> low: http://www.dlink.ca/products/?pid=478
>>> Have you considered the "lowest price" may not be exactly conducive to
>>> "just works"?
>> Yes. That's why I asked for opinions about that router.
>
> Ok. Personally, I wouldn't waste my time or money on it.
>
>>> I would think the plug-and-play nature of Apple's Airport Extreme router
>>> would be quite attractive to someone who obviously doesn't know much
>>> about networking!
>> Is that so? I didn't know the Airport Extreme is a router. The Apple Web
>> site (http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/features/frequency.html)
>> doesn't identify the Airport Extreme as a router. It identifies it as a
>> device for "wirelsss network users" and as a "base station". I didn't
>> know that "base station" is synonymous with "router".
>>
>> Are you sure that an Airport Extreme would replace the D-Link 604+
>> router without any negative side effects? Advice must be clear for me to
>> comprehend it.
>
> It would replace it and then some. It has *more* functionality - not
> less.
>
>> (Remember: I was advised by some folks that if I have a wireless
>> connection, I needed to buy only powered speakers, an Airport Express
>> and a cable to run between them, to get music to play in the next room,
>> and that turned out not be be the case. It's been made clear by this
>> thread that I must additionally either buy a more modern router, or
>> fiddle with the delicate network settings on my current D-Link router
>> and maybe Imac, too.)
>>
>> I thought I already have a wireless connection, because I was able to
>> wirelessly connect my Imac with a PC in the next room, so I must have
>> misunderstood what was meant by having a wireless connection. I didn't
>> know that "having a wireless connection" can mean two totally different
>> things.
>
> No, that's what a wireless connection is. You do have one.

So I assume, then, that the PC in the next room (that I connected
wirelessly to my Imac) doesn't act as a DHCP server.

The conflict as I understand it is between the Express and my D-Link
router both being DHCP servers.

Robert
From: M-M on
In article <hu_Gm.50989$PH1.52(a)edtnps82>,
Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:

> The socket is labeled "ADSL". The cord in that socket is a phone cord,
> which leads to a five-way phone jack splitter. The main cord of the
> phone jack splitter leads to a phone jack in a wall.


So you have a phone-line DSL connection to the internet? And you don't
have a phone jack in the room with the speakers?

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From: Jolly Roger on
In article <pQ_Gm.51000$PH1.21210(a)edtnps82>,
Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:

> The conflict as I understand it is between the Express and my D-Link
> router both being DHCP servers.

That can't be known with certainty without knowing how you have the
Airport Express configured. Try this:

1. Open Airport Utility.
2. Select the Airport Express on the left side of the window.
3. Click "Manual Setup".
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