From: Robert Montgomery on
Sander Tekelenburg wrote:
> In article <Fx_Fm.50578$PH1.27455(a)edtnps82>,
> Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> (Remember: I was advised by some folks that if I have a wireless
>> connection, I needed to buy only powered speakers, an Airport Express
>> and a cable to run between them, to get music to play in the next room,
>> and that turned out not be be the case.
>
> Just FWIW: as I was one of those advising that, of course I do feel some
> responsibility to help you further getting it to actually work. But from
> your recent barrage of messages (with lots of needless quoting) I got
> completely lost as to what you have configured how, what you have and
> haven't tried, and what happens when you do x.
>
> Good to see that a few others seem to understand the problem, though :)

I understand your confusion, Sander.

I'm sorry about the quoting. I thought that would help to refresh
people's memory of the issues.

Your confusion demonstrates that the issue is not "very simple", which
is what M-M claimed.

Robert
From: M-M on
In article <zyDGm.49845$Db2.6654(a)edtnps83>,
Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:

> the issue is not "very simple", which
> is what M-M claimed.


It would be if you get rid of your d-link router.

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From: Robert Montgomery on
David Empson wrote:
> Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:
>
>> nospam wrote:
>>> In article <TS8Fm.50281$PH1.18185(a)edtnps82>, Robert Montgomery
>>> <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:
>>>
>> I just tried ethernet-cabling the Express to the router, but that cuased
>> my Internet connection to drop.
>
> That's because the Airport Express default configuration is to act as a
> DHCP server via Ethernet (and WiFi), and it will be conflicting with the
> DHCP server in the D-Link. They might also be trying to use the same IP
> addresses, which is a no-no.

What's the difference between my old D-Link router and the new ones,
which people say provide "Wi-Fi"? Don't the more modern routers act as
DHCP servers?

I looked up the definition of Wi-Fi on the Web. I got this result at
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&safe=off&defl=en&q=define:wifi&ei=3ADrSv3OCJG-sgOCk9jfCA&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title&ved=0CA0QkAE
wireless local area network: a local area network that uses high
frequency radio signals to transmit and receive data over distances of a
few ...
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn.

That definition of Wi-Fi implies to me that I have Wi-Fi already,
because when I looked at my PC's network setting, it said that it was
attached via a local area network to my Imac, and I was able to connect
the two computers wirelessly.

That Web page also has a link that defines Wi-Fi router: Wi-Fi Router -
IEEE 802.11 is a set of standards carrying out wireless local area
network (WLAN) computer communication in the 2.4, 3.6 and 5 GHz
frequency bands. They are implemented by the IEEE LAN/MAN Standards
Committee (IEEE 802).

Robert
From: Robert Montgomery on
M-M wrote:
> In article <Fx_Fm.50578$PH1.27455(a)edtnps82>,
> Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:
>
>> I didn't know the Airport Extreme is a router.
>
> both the Airport Express and the Airport Extreme are routers but only
> the Express will do Airtunes. The Extreme has more ethernet connections,
> if you need that.

>
>>> It's very simple as I said before. If you cannot bring the cable into
>>> the room with the speakers, then get 2 Airport routers and they will
>>> work very well together.

In the second message of the thread, Michael recommended an Extreme, but
Michele. AES and Sander responded that the recommendation should have
been Express, so they seem to contradict your statement that only
Extreme does Airtunes.

So we've had disagreement even among the experts here about which device
would do the job, so obviously it's not "very simple".

Also, if it were very simple, this thread wouldn't be as long as it is.

Also, in the very first response of the thread, Michael wrote that it
would work if I have a wireless connection. I DO have a wireless
connection. But after about 40 or 50 messages in this thread, it was
determined that I don't have the right kind of wireless connection, and
that I need to buy a "Wi-Fi" router.

Also, when I went to an Apple store and described my setup and my desire
to play music wirelessly in the next room, the salesman who then sold me
the Express advised that all I needed was the Express and the cable to
connect to the speakers. He's the most zealous Mac fan I've met, but he
also gave me incomplete advice, so obviously the situation is not "very
simple".

I did attach the Express to the router with an Ethernet cable, but then
my Internet connection was cut off.

So I think I shall buy an Airport Extreme "base station" router to
replace my apparently obsolete D-Link 604+ base station router.

Robert
From: M-M on
In article <9fEGm.49853$Db2.5175(a)edtnps83>,
Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:

> In the second message of the thread, Michael recommended an Extreme, but
> Michele. AES and Sander responded that the recommendation should have
> been Express, so they seem to contradict your statement that only
> Extreme does Airtunes.


Only the Express does Airtunes. The Extreme does not have the Audio-out
port.


> Also, when I went to an Apple store and described my setup and my desire
> to play music wirelessly in the next room, the salesman who then sold me
> the Express advised that all I needed was the Express and the cable to
> connect to the speakers. He's the most zealous Mac fan I've met, but he
> also gave me incomplete advice, so obviously the situation is not "very
> simple".


He is correct. You connect the Express to the router via ethernet cable,
and to your stereo via the audio cable (and to a USB printer if you'd
like to print wirelessly.)


> I did attach the Express to the router with an Ethernet cable, but then
> my Internet connection was cut off.

Are you still using the D-Link? Did you configure the Express correctly?

>
> So I think I shall buy an Airport Extreme "base station" router to
> replace my apparently obsolete D-Link 604+ base station router.


Only if you can't get your internet cable into the same room as the
speakers. Two expresses will do just as well if you can't move the cable.




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