From: Robert Montgomery on
Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <201Fm.49304$Db2.15349(a)edtnps83>,
> Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:
>
>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>>> Do you get the message if you turn off the firewall on this computer?
>> When I turn off the firewall, and then click in Itunes on "Robert's
>> Airport Express" in the popup window in Itunes's lower, right corner, I
>> then no longer get the ""Your computer's firewall settings
>> >>> prevent you from using Airtunes" message, but I still get the
>> Airtunes' "Connecting to Robert's Airport Express" window with the
>> horizontal barbershop pole that keeps moving for a few minutes before it
>> goes away, and there's still no check mark beside "Robert's Airport
>> Express" in Itunes, so I turned the firewall back on.
>
> Why?

The same reason as everyone else who uses a firewall, obviously: to
protect against enemy fire.

All of the information I've read says to keep the shields up at all times.

> You're only adding problem on top of problem by turning it back on. If
> you would leave it off for now, you've eliminated one aspect of why you
> are having trouble communicating with the damned thing!
>
>> I also tried Network > Show: Airport > TCP/IP > Configure IPV6 > and
>> switched from Configure IPV6 Automatically to Off, and saved the network
>> settings, but after that I still got the "Connecting to Robert's Airport
>> Express" window with the horizontal barbershop pole that keeps moving,
>> so I turned IPV6 back to "Automatic" and saved the Network settings again.
>>
>> I found some relevant information about Airtunes malfunctioning at
>> http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-75970.html, but
>> ultimately it hasn't helped.
>
> I think it's likely your D-Link 604+ router is the source of the
> problem. Your firewall settings are another separate problem that
> coincidentally is happening at the same time, complicating the
> situation. Do yourself a favor and turn the firewall off until you solve
> the actual problem.

Robert
From: David Empson on
Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:

> David Empson wrote:
> > Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <251020092008084122%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
> >> nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> How could I set up the D-Link 604+ router to create a wireless
> >>>> network?
> >>> google says that's an old router which only supports 802.11b and wep.
> >>>
> >>> you would be *far* better off hardwiring the airport express to your
> >>> existing network and using the airport for a wifi network, particularly
> >>> if you have the latest 802.11n version of the express. even if you have
> >>> the older 802.11g version, you are *still* ahead.
> >> The problem with that is that he AE needs to be in the other room to
> >> connect to the speakers.
> >
> > Upgrading to a more modern wireless router and getting the Airport
> > Express to join its network (as I described earlier) would be the best
> > solution.
> >
> > If the Airport Express creates a wireless network and the iMac is
> > connected to both that network and the D-Link, you may be able to get it
> > working reliably, but everything has to be configured carefully.
> >
> > You will effectively be setting up two separate IP networks. The D-Link
> > and Mac form one network, and the Airport Express and Mac form a
> > separate network. The two networks must use different ranges of IP
> > addresses so the Mac knows which interface to use.
>
> I think I'd rather buy a new router.

You will just need to make one setting change on the Airport Express,
and possibly one on the iMac.

> > (I'd expect the LED on the Airport Express to be blinking orange in this
> > configuration, because it will be complaining about not having anything
> > plugged into its Ethernet port.)
> >
> > The key question: what IP address range is the D-Link supplying via its
> > DHCP server?
>
> The D-Link 604+ configuration > Advanced page for DHCP says:
>
> Starting IP address: 192.168.0.2
> Ending IP address: 192.168.0.33

Given that, you need to configure the Airport Express to NOT use
addresses starting with 192.168.0. Pick any other option, such as
192.168.2 (just to avoid any possible conflict with a future router you
get which might use 192.168.1). You could also use any address range
starting with 10.

I suggest configuring the Aiport Express DHCP server to alocate
addresses in the range 192.168.2.2 through 192.168.2.99 (for example).
The Airport Express will be 192.168.2.1.

That gives you the option of being able to configure the iMac's Airport
interface to use a static address of 192.168.2.100 (up to
192.168.2.254), if it turns out this is necessary for reliable
operation.

--
David Empson
dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: Jolly Roger on
In article <64lFm.49489$Db2.38027(a)edtnps83>,
Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:

> Jolly Roger wrote:
> > In article <201Fm.49304$Db2.15349(a)edtnps83>,
> > Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Jolly Roger wrote:
> >>
> >>> Do you get the message if you turn off the firewall on this computer?
> >> When I turn off the firewall, and then click in Itunes on "Robert's
> >> Airport Express" in the popup window in Itunes's lower, right corner, I
> >> then no longer get the ""Your computer's firewall settings
> >> >>> prevent you from using Airtunes" message, but I still get the
> >> Airtunes' "Connecting to Robert's Airport Express" window with the
> >> horizontal barbershop pole that keeps moving for a few minutes before it
> >> goes away, and there's still no check mark beside "Robert's Airport
> >> Express" in Itunes, so I turned the firewall back on.
> >
> > Why?
>
> The same reason as everyone else who uses a firewall, obviously: to
> protect against enemy fire.
>
> All of the information I've read says to keep the shields up at all times.

That's silly. Your D-Link router has a firewall. There's no need to run
two firewalls back to back like that.

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From: Jolly Roger on
In article <1u9Fm.50284$PH1.46216(a)edtnps82>,
Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:

> I'm tempted to give up my dream of getting music to play in the
> adjoining room. I just spent the last two days on this problem. Now I'm
> being told I have to embark on an entirely new tack � one which, I'm
> sure � will be fraught with lots more difficulties, especially because
> what you're proposing sounds like jerry-rigging, so there's probably not
> much documentation available.
>
> If I have to buy a new router, I have to deal with all the headaches
> that will surely ensue. The more I try to solve this problem, the more
> problematic it becomes.

It's not nearly as complicated as you make it out to be. No offense
intended, but you're having this much trouble because you're making
decisions out of ignorance.

> If I were to buy a new router, would this one be good? It's price is
> low: http://www.dlink.ca/products/?pid=478

Have you considered the "lowest price" may not be exactly conducive to
"just works"?

I would think the plug-and-play nature of Apple's Airport Extreme router
would be quite attractive to someone who obviously doesn't know much
about networking!

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From: Jolly Roger on
In article <l7iFm.49466$Db2.43882(a)edtnps83>,
Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:

> I was told originally all I needed was powered speakers and an
> Airport Express.
>
> No one told me my router would interfere, or asked what kind of a router
> I have. And I didn't read anywhere in the caveats on the Apple site or
> anywhere else that if I use a router � or the wrong kind of router � I
> won't be able to play music wirelessly unless it's the latest.
>
> And I wonder why the cartoon video on the Apple site
> (http://www.apple.com/findouthow/mac/#wirelessmusic ) shows a music
> setup without a router or modem. That's not a standard computer
> configuration. Every normal desktop configuration has at least one modem
> or router to connect to the Net.

I would think a wireless router would be an assumed prerequisite.

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