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From: M-M on 28 Oct 2009 18:28 In article <Fx_Fm.50578$PH1.27455(a)edtnps82>, Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote: > I didn't know the Airport Extreme is a router. both the Airport Express and the Airport Extreme are routers but only the Express will do Airtunes. The Extreme has more ethernet connections, if you need that. They both support wireless printing. It's very simple as I said before. If you cannot bring the cable into the room with the speakers, then get 2 Airport routers and they will work very well together. -- m-m http://www.mhmyers.com
From: David Empson on 28 Oct 2009 19:03 Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote: > Jolly Roger wrote: > > In article <1u9Fm.50284$PH1.46216(a)edtnps82>, > > Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote: > > > >> I'm tempted to give up my dream of getting music to play in the > >> adjoining room. I just spent the last two days on this problem. Now I'm > >> being told I have to embark on an entirely new tack – one which, I'm > >> sure – will be fraught with lots more difficulties, especially because > >> what you're proposing sounds like jerry-rigging, so there's probably not > >> much documentation available. > >> > >> If I have to buy a new router, I have to deal with all the headaches > >> that will surely ensue. The more I try to solve this problem, the more > >> problematic it becomes. > > > > It's not nearly as complicated as you make it out to be. No offense > > intended, but you're having this much trouble because you're making > > decisions out of ignorance. > > > >> If I were to buy a new router, would this one be good? It's price is > >> low: http://www.dlink.ca/products/?pid=478 > > > > Have you considered the "lowest price" may not be exactly conducive to > > "just works"? > > Yes. That's why I asked for opinions about that router. > > > I would think the plug-and-play nature of Apple's Airport Extreme router > > would be quite attractive to someone who obviously doesn't know much > > about networking! > > Is that so? I didn't know the Airport Extreme is a router. The Apple Web > site (http://www.apple.com/airportextreme/features/frequency.html) > doesn't identify the Airport Extreme as a router. It identifies it as a > device for "wirelsss network users" and as a "base station". I didn't > know that "base station" is synonymous with "router". Almost all base stations are able to act as routers. This includes Apple's ones (Airport Express, Airport Extreme and Time Capsule). > Are you sure that an Airport Extreme would replace the D-Link 604+ > router without any negative side effects? Advice must be clear for me to > comprehend it. What sort of connection does your D-Link have to the Internet? (a) If it is DSL, then an Airport Extreme can't directly replace it, because the Airport Extreme has an Ethernet connection to the Internet. You would still need a DSL modem. You could keep using the D-Link as a DSL modem, and connect an Airport Extreme to the D-Link via Ethernet. The Airport Extreme would be configured to act as a bridge (not as a router) and would create a wireless network. You could also do this with a second Airport Express, which would be cheaper. (b) If your D-Link is connected to a cable modem via Ethernet, or any other Internet connection which uses an Ethernet cable, then an Airport Extreme can directly replace it. A second Airport Express would be a poor option in this case, because it would not allow any Ethernet connected local devices - your iMac and everything else would have to use the wireless network to connect to the Internet. (The Airport Express has a single Ethernet port, which would be needed to connect to the Internet.) > (Remember: I was advised by some folks that if I have a wireless > connection, I needed to buy only powered speakers, an Airport Express > and a cable to run between them, to get music to play in the next room, > and that turned out not be be the case. It's been made clear by this > thread that I must additionally either buy a more modern router, or > fiddle with the delicate network settings on my current D-Link router > and maybe Imac, too.) > > I thought I already have a wireless connection, because I was able to > wirelessly connect my Imac with a PC in the next room, so I must have > misunderstood what was meant by having a wireless connection. I didn't > know that "having a wireless connection" can mean two totally different > things. If you want other computers to have a wireless connection to the Internet, my earlier suggestion of having the Airport Express creating a separate wireless network will not work. It would be necessary to run Ethernet from the Airport Express to the D-Link to allow Internet access via that wireless network. The easiest solution by far is to replace or supplement your D-Link with another wireless base station. That base station will create the wireless network, and your existing Airport Express will join that wireless network, as will the PC. -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: Sander Tekelenburg on 28 Oct 2009 20:36 In article <Fx_Fm.50578$PH1.27455(a)edtnps82>, Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote: [...] > (Remember: I was advised by some folks that if I have a wireless > connection, I needed to buy only powered speakers, an Airport Express > and a cable to run between them, to get music to play in the next room, > and that turned out not be be the case. Just FWIW: as I was one of those advising that, of course I do feel some responsibility to help you further getting it to actually work. But from your recent barrage of messages (with lots of needless quoting) I got completely lost as to what you have configured how, what you have and haven't tried, and what happens when you do x. Good to see that a few others seem to understand the problem, though :) -- Sander Tekelenburg, <http://www.euronet.nl/~tekelenb/> Mac user: "Macs only have 40 viruses, tops!" PC user: "SEE! Not even the virus writers support Macs!"
From: Robert Montgomery on 30 Oct 2009 10:31 David Empson wrote: > What sort of connection does your D-Link have to the Internet? How can I find out? I checked my router's configuration data in a browser, and System Profiler, but I can't translate the geekese there into regular English. Robert
From: Robert Montgomery on 30 Oct 2009 11:12
James Dale Guckert wrote: > On Oct 28, 9:44 am, Robert Montgomery <info-bl...(a)northern-data- > tech.net> wrote: > >> (Remember: I was advised by some folks that if I have a wireless >> connection, I needed to buy only powered speakers, an Airport Express >> and a cable to run between them, to get music to play in the next room, > > You don't even need a wireless connection if your iMac has an Airport > (or Airport Extreme) card installed. I have an old "desk-lamp" iMac > with the Airport card installed (it wouldn't take the Extreme), I am > connected to the 'Net via an ethernet connection from my DSL modem, > and I use an Airport Express to pipe music to my stereo in another > room. > > The problems you are having have nothing to do with a lack of > equipment. > > I do have a wireless router as well, but that's for giving a laptop > computer access to the Internet. My Imac does have an Airport card. So you're contradicting David's statement that my router is causing the problem (by acting as a DHCP server and broadcasting its own IP address?) Robert |