From: Robert Montgomery on
Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <AQYGm.49993$Db2.32961(a)edtnps83>,
> Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I'm still using the D-Link. And yes, I configured the Express
>> correctly. I plugged it into an outlet in a room that's next to the
>> Imac. I plugged a cord from the Express into the powered speakers. And I
>> plugged the powered speakers into an outlet.
>
> That's a physical connection; it's not a configuration. Configuration is
> done via software.

That's false.

The dictionary in my Imace defines configuration as "the arrangement in
which items of computer hardware or software are interconnected".

Robert
From: Robert Montgomery on
Sander Tekelenburg wrote:
> In article <UD_Gm.50992$PH1.8458(a)edtnps82>,
> Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> it's been revealed here that I should either change my settings
>> somehow to avoid the conflict of having both the router and the Express
>> sending out DHCP IP addresses, or get a more up-to-date router.
>
> Nonsense. *If* the problem is that you have two DHCP servers active,
> then the obvious solution is to switch one of those off (the one on the
> AirportExpress, I'd say).

There's no button on the Airport Express that I could turn off.

And even if there were, if I switched it off, I wouldn't be able to
stream music from my Mac into the next room, where the Express and the
speakers are.

>> [...] so I decided to buy a new router to replace my old D-Link.
>
> You could. But it seems to me that nobody here yet knows what your
> actual problem is, so another router might solve exactly nothing.

How can the cause of the problem be determined?

Robert
From: Robert Montgomery on
Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <UD_Gm.50992$PH1.8458(a)edtnps82>,
> Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:
>
>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> In article <AQYGm.49993$Db2.32961(a)edtnps83>,
>>> Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, I'm still using the D-Link. And yes, I configured the Express
>>>> correctly. I plugged it into an outlet in a room that's next to the
>>>> Imac. I plugged a cord from the Express into the powered speakers. And I
>>>> plugged the powered speakers into an outlet.
>>> If the Airport Express is configured correctly, when you run Airport
>>> Utility on your Mac, you will see the Airport Express in the list on the
>>> left side of the window.
>> Well, I did have it listed there a few times before, but it's not there
>> now.
>
> That indicates a problem to me.

I agree.

>> I gave up trying to set it up again with my current configuration,
>> because it's been revealed here that I should either change my settings
>> somehow to avoid the conflict of having both the router and the Express
>> sending out DHCP IP addresses, or get a more up-to-date router.
>
> How do we know for sure you have such a conflict? Are you sure you have
> configured your Airport Express to be a DHCP server??

Well, it think that's what David Empson and maybe Nospam (can't recall
for sure) indicated.
>
>> I don't know how to change the router settings to avoid the IP address
>> conflict, so I decided to buy a new router to replace my old D-Link.
>
> That's probably just as well. I've never considered D-Link's routers to
> be among the better routers out there.
>
>> Is there a good brand of router that's cheaper than the Apple Extremes?
>
> Define "good" please. : )
>
> Seriously, none of them will come close to matching the plug-and-play
> and ease of use of the Airport Extreme. You do get what you pay for. In
> this case, you get additional headaches in the form of hard-to-use and
> less secure configuration interfaces with the cheaper ones.

Too bad. That'll double my cost. I've already spent close to $200 on
this wireless music piping system and it's useless now.

Robert
From: Robert Montgomery on
M-M wrote:
> In article <hu_Gm.50989$PH1.52(a)edtnps82>,
> Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:
>
>> The socket is labeled "ADSL". The cord in that socket is a phone cord,
>> which leads to a five-way phone jack splitter. The main cord of the
>> phone jack splitter leads to a phone jack in a wall.
>
>
> So you have a phone-line DSL connection to the internet? And you don't
> have a phone jack in the room with the speakers?

I _do_ have a phone jack in the room with the speakers.

Robert

From: Robert Montgomery on
Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article <hu_Gm.50989$PH1.52(a)edtnps82>,
> Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:
>
>> David Empson wrote:
>>> Robert Montgomery <info-block(a)northern-data-tech.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> David Empson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What sort of connection does your D-Link have to the Internet?
>>>> How can I find out? I checked my router's configuration data in a
>>>> browser, and System Profiler, but I can't translate the geekese there
>>>> into regular English.
>>> How does it physically plug into the Internet? What sort of cable is
>>> used between the D-Link and the Internet, and what is the socket on the
>>> D-Link labelled?
>> The socket is labeled "ADSL". The cord in that socket is a phone cord,
>> which leads to a five-way phone jack splitter. The main cord of the
>> phone jack splitter leads to a phone jack in a wall.
>>
>>> Does that cable plug into some other device? If so, what is the brand
>>> and model of that device, how is the socket to the D-Link labelled, and
>>> what does the connection look like between that device and the Internet?
>> No other device.
>>
>>> Note the subtle difference between telephone sockets and Ethernet
>>> sockets. The US uses RJ-11 (six pin) telephone sockets, though only two
>>> of those pins are used. Ethernet uses RJ-45 (eight pin) sockets which
>>> are similar in appearance but wider.
>> I see what you mean. Thanks for the detailed explanation. Only one of
>> the four Ethernet sockets is used. It's got a cable leading to my Imac.
>>
>>> If the D-Link plugs into a standard telephone socket, possibly via small
>>> device mentioning "Filter" or similar, with sockets labelled PHONE and
>>> COMPUTER (or DSL, or DATA) then you have a DSL connection (it might
>>> mention ADSL, VDSL or SDSL somewhere).
>>>
>>> The D-Link may also have DSL in its model name, or mention one of these
>>> terms in its description on the device, or the web interface, or the
>>> user manual.
>> The machine says "Wireless ADSL Router" on it.
>
> Hmm... then it must be different than the one I am looking at on
> D-Link's web site:
>
> <http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=62>

Right. That router is a DI-604. Mine is a 604+.

Robert