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From: jmfbahciv on 12 Nov 2006 10:43 In article <455615CC.2B8A045E(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Raising the minimum wage is stupid and insane. >> >> > >> >> >Why ? >> >> >> >> It causes all other prices to eventually go up, especially housing. >> >> It eliminates wage competition. People's real productivity is >> >> no longer measured nor rewarded with wage. >> >> >> >> >> >> >I saw it can be a slow as $5 an hour. >> >> > >> >> >Can anyone actually live on that ? >> >> >> >> $10k/year? Yes. >> > >> >You wouldn't get far on ?5263 over here for sure. >> >> I didn't say it was easy and one also has to give up a lot >> of middle class "attitudes" ;-). > >Around here you'd pay ~ ?3000 p.a. minimum just for >a very basic rented room ! In the US you can't plan on renting when you stop working. Part of way we live is to spend a part of our wages on a place to live that will become yours after a few years. That way you can eliminate paying rent as part of your living expense. Like I said it is possible but you do have to give up middle class attitudes. > >Now try living on ?43 p.w. ! After my tuition and dorm fee were paid, I lived on $2/month when I went to college; the $2 included clothes washing and Tampax. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 12 Nov 2006 10:46 In article <eYydnQX-mf2npsvYnZ2dnUVZ8v2dnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:ej4k4i$8ss_029(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <455493E7.A39EFCD9(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> Raising the minimum wage is stupid and insane. >>>> > >>>> >Why ? >>>> >>>> It causes all other prices to eventually go up, especially housing. >>>> It eliminates wage competition. People's real productivity is >>>> no longer measured nor rewarded with wage. >>>> >>>> >>>> >I saw it can be a slow as $5 an hour. >>>> > >>>> >Can anyone actually live on that ? >>>> >>>> $10k/year? Yes. >>> >>>You wouldn't get far on ?5263 over here for sure. >> >> I didn't say it was easy and one also has to give up a lot >> of middle class "attitudes" ;-). > >Like housing, food, clothing ... Now stop being stupid. You do have to plan. My folks (2 people) are living on $10K; if you divide by 2, that's $5K. But the division not a correct thing to do. You grow your own food; you don't buy many clothes and what you do buy, you limit your price to $2 or less. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 12 Nov 2006 10:48 In article <T9m5h.2411$6t.94(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:ej4k9c$8ss_030(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <sq15h.3588$IR4.1362(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> It causes all other prices to eventually go up, especially housing. >>>>> It eliminates wage competition. >>> >>>Only at the bottom end. Everyone else still competes. >>> >>> >>>>> People's real productivity is >>>>> no longer measured nor rewarded with wage. >>> >>>I would argue that anybody who is still making minimum wage after any time >>>at all in a job, isn't productive and doesn't deserve to be rewarded. >>> >>> >>>>> >I saw it can be a slow as $5 an hour. >>>>> > >>>>> >Can anyone actually live on that ? >>>>> >>>>> $10k/year? Yes. >>> >>>That's not living. >> >> You don't that. It is only your opinion that's not living. >> People do live on that kind of cash flow. > >And what you conveniently snipped is the fact that, in order to reach the >poverty level, someone would have to nearly double that wage. Living in >poverty isn't "living", it's "existing". There's a big difference. I will continue to snip the rest of a message if it starts being useless to me. I "lived" in poverty when a child but I didn't know it. You have middle class values and have no idea what is required for living. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 12 Nov 2006 10:49 In article <zYSdnU6Ae7GypsvYnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:ej4k9c$8ss_030(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <sq15h.3588$IR4.1362(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> It causes all other prices to eventually go up, especially housing. >>>>> It eliminates wage competition. >>> >>>Only at the bottom end. Everyone else still competes. >>> >>> >>>>> People's real productivity is >>>>> no longer measured nor rewarded with wage. >>> >>>I would argue that anybody who is still making minimum wage after any time >>>at all in a job, isn't productive and doesn't deserve to be rewarded. >>> >>> >>>>> >I saw it can be a slow as $5 an hour. >>>>> > >>>>> >Can anyone actually live on that ? >>>>> >>>>> $10k/year? Yes. >>> >>>That's not living. >> >> You don't that. It is only your opinion that's not living. >> People do live on that kind of cash flow. > >Yeah but normally do-gooder ex-popstars have charity events to support them. I had myself down to $12K. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 12 Nov 2006 10:51
In article <b6lbl2t804d13v4moi3i90q1n2hsh25q7u(a)4ax.com>, Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: >On Fri, 10 Nov 06 12:04:46 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>In article <AEG4h.11568$B31.4300(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:eiva46$8qk_005(a)s839.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <4550A28F.B40C659F(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In addition, people burn the wood that is laced with arsenic. >>>>> >>>>>What kind of wood is laced with arsenic ? >>>> >>>> Any wood you want to prevent termintes from eating. >>> >>>Not any more, at least not new wood. >> >>Sigh! People don't burn wood they've just paid $2.59/bd.ft. They >>burn the old wood they've just replaced. > >But according to you, the treated wood never needs replacing. This is an urban area now. It has become a sin to be frugal; redoing everything is the social rule. /BAH |