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From: Ben Newsam on 12 Nov 2006 10:33 On Sun, 12 Nov 06 13:56:26 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >Now note all the times you all wrote "local". That's important. >The US is big. There isn't much "local" anymore. You go >into the city or urban centers and get into their medical >production line. What you need is a national health service.
From: unsettled on 12 Nov 2006 11:01 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <T9m5h.2411$6t.94(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:ej4k9c$8ss_030(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> >>>In article <sq15h.3588$IR4.1362(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>It causes all other prices to eventually go up, especially housing. >>>>>>It eliminates wage competition. >>>> >>>>Only at the bottom end. Everyone else still competes. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> People's real productivity is >>>>>>no longer measured nor rewarded with wage. >>>> >>>>I would argue that anybody who is still making minimum wage after any time >>>>at all in a job, isn't productive and doesn't deserve to be rewarded. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>I saw it can be a slow as $5 an hour. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Can anyone actually live on that ? >>>>>> >>>>>>$10k/year? Yes. >>>> >>>>That's not living. >>> >>>You don't that. It is only your opinion that's not living. >>>People do live on that kind of cash flow. >> >>And what you conveniently snipped is the fact that, in order to reach the >>poverty level, someone would have to nearly double that wage. Living in >>poverty isn't "living", it's "existing". There's a big difference. > > > I will continue to snip the rest of a message if it starts > being useless to me. > > I "lived" in poverty when a child but I didn't know it. You > have middle class values and have no idea what is required for > living. I never met anyone who grew up during the great depression who didn't think they had a good life and a good childhood on account of not having much. Take the model of hunter-gatherer tribes. They wouldn't begin to understand a value system that thought they are just "existing." Still the totality of their posessions was limited to what they could carry.
From: jmfbahciv on 12 Nov 2006 10:58 In article <a687d$4557300e$49ecffa$23098(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> In article <v76dnSNVabJ4h8vYnZ2dnUVZ8v2dnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:ej4hah$8ss_014(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> >>>>In article <45537045.AC5FCFC6(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Something approaching 20% of the people in our country can't afford any >>>> >>>>sort >>>> >>>>>>of health care. To say that "ain't broke" is one of the most morally >>>> >>>>bereft >>>> >>>>>>statements I've heard in a very, very long time. Congratulations, >>>>>>you've >>>>>>demonstrated the lack of a conscience along with a lack of a brain. >>>>> >>>>>BAH may not be aware that it was a social conscience that drove Britain to >>>> >>>>look >>>> >>>>>at the possibility of a National Health Service. >>>> >>>>Britain is a single country and has a "small" acreage. The US >>>>is 50 "countries" span a quarter hemisphere. >>> >>>So what? >> >> >> You people honestly can't see the difference? > >They're not science oriented, so they don't understand >scale. You are wrong. Some, if not all, are science and/or engineering trained. I'm trying to figure out how thinking that is used to working analytically, makes such spectacular thinking leaps. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 12 Nov 2006 10:59 In article <9a071$4557314e$49ecffa$23098(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> In article <4555F0FA.3C4FF876(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>unsettled wrote: >>> >>> >>>>I am at a slight loss in the >>>>medicine coverage if I use Canadian pricing as >>>>the basis, but way ahead if I use USA prices. >>> >>>Why are the same medicines more expensive in the USA ? >> >> >> We pay the development costs. > >And we generously sell the medicines for less overseas. > It has nothing to do with generosity. /BAH
From: unsettled on 12 Nov 2006 11:06
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <a687d$4557300e$49ecffa$23098(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >>>In article <v76dnSNVabJ4h8vYnZ2dnUVZ8v2dnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, >>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>>news:ej4hah$8ss_014(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> >>>> >>>>>In article <45537045.AC5FCFC6(a)hotmail.com>, >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Something approaching 20% of the people in our country can't afford any >>>>> >>>>>sort >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>of health care. To say that "ain't broke" is one of the most morally >>>>> >>>>>bereft >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>statements I've heard in a very, very long time. Congratulations, >>>>>>>you've >>>>>>>demonstrated the lack of a conscience along with a lack of a brain. >>>>>> >>>>>>BAH may not be aware that it was a social conscience that drove Britain > > to > >>>>>look >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>at the possibility of a National Health Service. >>>>> >>>>>Britain is a single country and has a "small" acreage. The US >>>>>is 50 "countries" span a quarter hemisphere. >>>> >>>>So what? >>> >>> >>>You people honestly can't see the difference? >> >>They're not science oriented, so they don't understand >>scale. > > > You are wrong. Some, if not all, are science and/or engineering > trained. I'm trying to figure out how thinking that is used to > working analytically, makes such spectacular thinking leaps. We disagree. The reason is obvious to me. They don't understand scale. |