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From: T Wake on 12 Nov 2006 11:49 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ej7a6h$8qk_018(a)s851.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <ntGdnYwPUskgp8vYRVnygQ(a)pipex.net>, > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:ej4hvk$8ss_019(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> In article <cLCdnSrUJ5qj4s7YnZ2dnUVZ8tudnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, >>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>>> >>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>>news:eiv72p$8qk_003(a)s839.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... <snip> >>>>> I don't how strategy work gets done, but Bush does have a coherent >>>>> policy. >>>> >>>>How do you know that? >>> >>> It is orderly; it is logical. >> >>It is neither and you stated you did not know how strategy work gets done. > > I don't know what work is necessary that gets it done. I am learning. You are learning by refusing to listen to anything which does not match your preconcieved ideas. The policy is still neither ordered nor logical. > It is possible for me to know that work is required to do something; > I do not have to know how it gets done in order to be aware it exists. Very true. There is (in my mind) no doubt that strategy work got done. That it produced a coherent policy is another matter entirely. For you to be able to assert that the policy was coherent you need to know more than being aware strategy work gets done. You are moving away from the "coherent policy" falacy in your orignal statement by creating the illusion that posters in this thread think things happen automagically. This is not the case in any post I have seen. <snip silly response>
From: Michael A. Terrell on 12 Nov 2006 11:49 Ben Newsam wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Nov 06 12:48:51 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > >In article <2739l2d2vtuc7vfffle8t6jo1p905d99dr(a)4ax.com>, > > Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: > >>On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:01:56 +0000, Eeyore > >><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>> > >>>> My folks, > >>>> who will not see 80 again, dug a dry well by hand in the > >>>> summer of 2005. > >>> > >>>Dare I ask why ? > >> > >>I think we would call that a "sink" rather than a "well", or possibly > >>a "soakaway". > > > >Oh, dear. Have I just tripped over another word that doesnt' > >tranlate into English? :-) > > > >If I had to guess, I would say that your soakaway is our leach field. > > Well (heh), over here the output from a septic tank would go to a > soakaway rather than anything else. > > You don't have to cross the Atlantic to encounter confusion over the > words "sink" and "well", (both nouns, and also verbs associated with > the appearance or disappearance of water into or out of the ground). > What we in England call a "sink", the arrangement in the kitchen for > holding water that has taps (Damn! Faucets!) and a plughole, is known > as a "well" in Scotland, or at least in certain parts of it. A tap is for threading holes. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
From: T Wake on 12 Nov 2006 11:50 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ej7fr2$8qk_045(a)s851.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <zYSdnU6Ae7GypsvYnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d(a)pipex.net>, > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:ej4k9c$8ss_030(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> In article <sq15h.3588$IR4.1362(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It causes all other prices to eventually go up, especially housing. >>>>>> It eliminates wage competition. >>>> >>>>Only at the bottom end. Everyone else still competes. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> People's real productivity is >>>>>> no longer measured nor rewarded with wage. >>>> >>>>I would argue that anybody who is still making minimum wage after any >>>>time >>>>at all in a job, isn't productive and doesn't deserve to be rewarded. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >I saw it can be a slow as $5 an hour. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >Can anyone actually live on that ? >>>>>> >>>>>> $10k/year? Yes. >>>> >>>>That's not living. >>> >>> You don't that. It is only your opinion that's not living. >>> People do live on that kind of cash flow. >> >>Yeah but normally do-gooder ex-popstars have charity events to support >>them. > > I had myself down to $12K. Well, if you let Bono know, I am sure he can arrange for coloured bracelet to be made in a third world sweat shop to raise awareness of your plight.
From: Jamie on 12 Nov 2006 11:52 T Wake wrote: > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:ej79kg$8qk_015(a)s851.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > >>In article <M_t5h.736$yE6.654(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >>>news:f223d$45565fb7$4fe73d4$10122(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >>> >>>>Ben Newsam wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 20:23:39 -0000, "T Wake" >>>>><usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Are you implying that access to treatment should be on the basis of >>>>>>what >>>>>>the patient _thinks_ they need and can afford, rather than what the >>>>>>doctor thinks is the best treatment? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I would imagine that under a system where anyone can visit any >>>>>specialist at any time, the best specialists would be inundated with >>>>>rich hypochondriacs wasting their time. >>>> >>>>That doesn't seem to happen much in the US. I don't >>>>need a referral to see a specialist. >>> >>>Sentence #1 doesn't follow from sentence #2 above. In fact, sentence #1 >>>is >>>simply wrong. Your anecdote aside, anybody who has an HMO for their >>>health >>>care (i.e., most of the people insured through their jobs by corporate >>>concerns) must go through their PCP (primary care physician) to get to a >>>specialist...at least they do if they want the HMO to pay for it. >> >>And you're stuck with that PCP if the others in the system aren't >>taking new patients. Thus, if the PCP is an incompetent doctor >>it takes years to be able to transfer to another's list. Here >>in the northeast no doctor is local. You have to drive or be >>driven or go the emergency room. That's it. > > > Shame you don't have a nationalised health service really, isn't it? > > Is that so bad? We've seen how it works. -- "I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken" Real Programmers Do things like this. http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
From: T Wake on 12 Nov 2006 11:51
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ej7bp3$8qk_025(a)s851.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <ej53mo$u2c$5(a)blue.rahul.net>, > kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote: >>In article <sq15h.3588$IR4.1362(a)newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>, >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>[....] >>>I would argue that anybody who is still making minimum wage after any >>>time >>>at all in a job, isn't productive and doesn't deserve to be rewarded. >> >>There are some who are working at the limit of their ability. These >>people still deserve enough of a wage to live on. I have, indirectly, >>employed such a person in the past. He showed up for work on time and >>remained for the required time, but instructions to him needed to be made >>without subordinate clauses because he could not parse them. He is never >>going to get promoted into management no matter how hard he works. > > The grocers hire people who think this way. They are their best > workers. Now why do you assume that these types have to be > paid only minimum wage and never get performance raises? Who said they should only be paid minimum wage with no performance rises? |