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From: jmfbahciv on 12 Nov 2006 10:55 In article <coWdnTYWpdohocvYRVnysw(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >news:ej4kfj$8ss_031(a)s977.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> In article <dvidnWPSgamHfcnYnZ2dnUVZ8sqdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>> >>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>news:ej211j$8qk_003(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>>> In article <455485EB.84F083F4(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> <snip> >> >> >>>>>I saw it can be a slow as $5 an hour. >>>>> >>>>>Can anyone actually live on that ? >>>> >>>> $10k/year? Yes. >>> >>>Blimey. Where in the US can you live (housing, food, fuel, clothing, >>>transport) on $10k per year? I would love to know. I assume this does not >>>include health care though.... >> >> It includes the government insurance. My folks, who are 2 people, >> live on that little. Their income is social security and they >> never maxed out on the payments. > >Interesting. Do they own their own property? Do they own their own car and >machinery? Do they own land? Do they have any savings after a lifetimes >work? Yes,yes,yes,no. > >Without resorting to soley personal anecdote, can you break down how someone >can live on $10k a year? > >Think about: Rent, food, transport to and from work, work clothes, medical >insurance and treatments, dental insurance and treatments, heating bills, >cooking bills and so on. You don't rent or you figure out how to swap your time and/or labor for rent. > >While it is unfortunate, it is often the case that retired people have to >live on very little - however the assumption is that they have a _lifetime_ >of earning to offset the costs of the final years (I'd like to see someone >on $10k buy a house or even a car). For the car you pay cash. > >The problem comes when you say to an 18 year old school leaver - you have to >make it in the big world on $10k pa. > >>>In the UK I would be amazed if _anyone_, even in council housing, could >>>live >>>on ?10k per year, let alone $10k. >> >> It's an interesting experiement. I'm trying to get to $10K. > >Likewise, you are not 18. You are not starting out from scratch. You >probably have your own land to grow food. I won't tell you, then, what I lived on at 18. /BAH
From: Ben Newsam on 12 Nov 2006 10:01 On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 07:09:45 -0600, John Fields <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote: > Before we invaded, they couldn't exercise >self-determination. At the moment they still can't, but before we >leave they'll be running their own show. Notice the 'their'. As long as they do it the way you want them to.
From: Ben Newsam on 12 Nov 2006 10:05 On Sun, 12 Nov 06 12:47:09 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >Didn't you ever wonder where your sewer people put all of that >water that get flushed and put down the drains of your sinks, >baths, and showers? No, because I know exactly what happens to it. It goes to the sewage treatment works at Tinsley.
From: Ben Newsam on 12 Nov 2006 10:14 On Sun, 12 Nov 06 12:48:51 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >In article <2739l2d2vtuc7vfffle8t6jo1p905d99dr(a)4ax.com>, > Ben Newsam <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote: >>On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 14:01:56 +0000, Eeyore >><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> My folks, >>>> who will not see 80 again, dug a dry well by hand in the >>>> summer of 2005. >>> >>>Dare I ask why ? >> >>I think we would call that a "sink" rather than a "well", or possibly >>a "soakaway". > >Oh, dear. Have I just tripped over another word that doesnt' >tranlate into English? :-) > >If I had to guess, I would say that your soakaway is our leach field. Well (heh), over here the output from a septic tank would go to a soakaway rather than anything else. You don't have to cross the Atlantic to encounter confusion over the words "sink" and "well", (both nouns, and also verbs associated with the appearance or disappearance of water into or out of the ground). What we in England call a "sink", the arrangement in the kitchen for holding water that has taps (Damn! Faucets!) and a plughole, is known as a "well" in Scotland, or at least in certain parts of it.
From: Ben Newsam on 12 Nov 2006 10:25
On Sun, 12 Nov 06 13:47:55 GMT, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >So you do have to be vetted. You already have limited access. >When, or if, your GP infrastructure goes to pieces, you'll have >no access. <Boggle> That's plain daft. WHy should it fall to pieces? Or rather why would the GP infrastructure fall to pieces leaving the hospital and consultant system in place? They are all part of the same thing. |