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From: unsettled on 18 Nov 2006 13:10 T Wake wrote: > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:ejn0um$8ss_006(a)s771.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > >>In article <455E76B9.5AF675F0(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>unsettled wrote: >>> >>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>You underestimate them. These people buy things. They also >>>>>are quite aware about x costing more than y. >>>> >>>>They made the news. Over the past few days they were standing >>>>in line waiting at store doors for the release of the latest >>>>Sony game platform. Other than making sure they had enough >>>>money for the purchase, I don't think they have any grasp >>>>of value. Betcha if you asked them how many had health >>>>insurance..... >>> >>>A Play Station probably costs about the same as one month's health >>>insurance. >>> >>>One is within their means, the other isn't. >> >>You aren't giving them any credit. Think about the fact >>that they know about these games; they know about new >>gear; they know when and how to get it; they also know >>how much money they will need and they acquire that money. >>That's pretty good. Most people who can "think well" ask >>their parents for the money or put it on a credit card >>and don't bother thinking about money. > > > You need to get rid of your middle class assumptions. Most people don't have > parents who they can ask for the money or can put it on a credit card for > them. Most of the poor, badly educated people this thread is about come from > equally poor, badly educated families. I'm so sorry. I hadn't realized your life and background wer so horrid.
From: unsettled on 18 Nov 2006 13:18 T Wake wrote: > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:ejn1tu$8qk_003(a)s771.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > >>In article <ejl597$3a3$5(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>, >> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote: >> >>>In article <a0f2a$455ddc22$4fe7798$2513(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>In article <455C9D51.CF6E6D34(a)hotmail.com>, >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>unsettled wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>[ regarding buying a house on minimum wage ] >>>>>>>>>And if you don't have a large extended family ( most ppl don't ) >>>>>>>>>what >>>>> >>>>>then ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>There are many ways to accomplish things. It does require setting >>>>>>>>a prioity list. If you want to buy a house, you don't spend money >>>>>>>>on buying pu-pu platters every night. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>It begins with simple things, like buying and learning >>>>>>>to use 24 cent stamps. >>>>>> >>>>>>Both of you seem to think one can affiord a house by saving *pennies*. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>That's how it's done. >>>> >>>>Take care of the pennies and the dollars will take care >>>>of themseves. It is a mindset, not merely a method. >>>> >>> >>>OK, you save $1 a day by not eating out. How long does it take you to >>>save >> >>up >> >>>a 20% down payment on a $100,000 house? >> >>Getting the down payment must not be very important to you. >> > > > If you only have $1 a day to spare, it could be the most important thing > (after basic food and heating and shelter) in the world and you would still > take nearly 55 years. You wrote "If....spare." That's not what this is about. It is about *why* you have only $1 a day to spare. But I don't really expect you to get it. > You keep passing off on the problem by saying "they" need to plan or if it > was important they could do it. > > The reality is, living on minimum wage, it is impossible for "them" with all > the planning and good intentions in the world. Rags to riches is a common enough a theme in the USA. I can see why a socialist Brit like you would think the way you do. Why bother buying when a Council house is available so cheaply.
From: Don Bowey on 18 Nov 2006 13:40 On 11/18/06 3:03 AM, in article 24cd1$455ee873$4fe7264$10515(a)DIALUPUSA.NET, "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > T Wake wrote: >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:455E8724.FDDA2465(a)hotmail.com... >> >>> >>> unsettled wrote: >>> >>> >>>> T Wake wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> A nationalised health service only requires that the central control >>>>> gets a >>>>> doctor anywhere in the country. The doctor then does his job and makes >>>>> people well again. >>>> >>>> Doctors don't make people "well again." >>> >>> They do sometimes. >> >> >> I have been to the doctor in past, unwell, the doctor has treated me and I >> was well again. Once more unsettled is simply wrong. > > A person is never quite as well as they were before the illness. Again, logic fails you, or you fail it. You cannot expand an individual case to a general case. Yes, some illnesses leave permanent damage, but not all do. You seem to dwell on the negative. Don > >> More importantly, that was not a crucial part of my post - even if it is >> true and doctors dont make people well again (ever), the fact remains /BAH >> was incorrect. >> >> >>>> The best they can do is delay death for a while longer. >>> >>> And that too. > > >> I wish they wouldn't do it to unsettled. > > Classic Marxist-Leninist dishonesty.
From: Don Bowey on 18 Nov 2006 13:44 On 11/18/06 3:43 AM, in article 1163850208.968247.257200(a)j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Molusco" <machlab(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > STOP RACISM ! > > > only jews are human ? or what?? > > :@ > I believe it was the Native Indians who believed they were the People and all others were something else. I'm not convinced either way on their point. Don
From: Eeyore on 18 Nov 2006 14:27
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >unsettled wrote: > >> Don Bowey wrote: > >> > "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >> > >> >>Don't blame Bush for this one. It was easily predictable > >> >>and *had* to happen. > >> > > >> > > >> > Why did it have to happen? > >> > >> Because when there's money available to be grabbed, it will > >> be grabbed. > > > >That will happen in a money-grabbing society for sure ! > > > >The wholesale corruption of the USA never fails to amaze me. > > There are a few British businesses who bought US companies > and skimmed the cash out. The corruption is not a US > invention. Asset stripping may be unethical but it's not corruption. Graham |