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From: Eeyore on 18 Nov 2006 15:02 T Wake wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > I use cash fairly rarely these days. > > Same here. Buying the paper is about it. It comes in handy in the pub too ! I'll normally pick up magazines and stuff while shopping at the supermarket and put them on the card too. Graham
From: Eeyore on 18 Nov 2006 15:05 unsettled wrote: > T Wake wrote: > > > > The reality is, living on minimum wage, it is impossible for "them" with all > > the planning and good intentions in the world. > > Rags to riches is a common enough a theme in the USA. > > I can see why a socialist Brit like you would think > the way you do. Why bother buying when a Council house > is available so cheaply. Council houses ( social housing for those not common with the term ) are not easy to come by these days. Graham
From: T Wake on 18 Nov 2006 15:40 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:455F65D9.54A5AE4A(a)hotmail.com... > > > T Wake wrote: > >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>unsettled wrote: >> >>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>> >> >>> > You underestimate them. These people buy things. They also >> >>> > are quite aware about x costing more than y. >> >>> >> >>> They made the news. Over the past few days they were standing >> >>> in line waiting at store doors for the release of the latest >> >>> Sony game platform. Other than making sure they had enough >> >>> money for the purchase, I don't think they have any grasp >> >>> of value. Betcha if you asked them how many had health >> >>> insurance..... >> >> >> >>A Play Station probably costs about the same as one month's health >> >>insurance. >> >> >> >>One is within their means, the other isn't. >> > >> > You aren't giving them any credit. Think about the fact >> > that they know about these games; they know about new >> > gear; they know when and how to get it; they also know >> > how much money they will need and they acquire that money. >> > That's pretty good. Most people who can "think well" ask >> > their parents for the money or put it on a credit card >> > and don't bother thinking about money. >> >> You need to get rid of your middle class assumptions. Most people don't >> have >> parents who they can ask for the money or can put it on a credit card for >> them. Most of the poor, badly educated people this thread is about come >> from >> equally poor, badly educated families. > > Kind of amusing. The irony was not lost on me :-)
From: T Wake on 18 Nov 2006 15:43 "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:455F677D.8567FD7E(a)hotmail.com... > > > unsettled wrote: > >> T Wake wrote: >> > >> > The reality is, living on minimum wage, it is impossible for "them" >> > with all >> > the planning and good intentions in the world. >> >> Rags to riches is a common enough a theme in the USA. Yeah, unsettled may well think it is common, however I dont rate 1 in 100,000 as common. Even still, it isnt relevant. That person on minimum wage may be the richest (wo)man on the planet at age 80. However, as they cant afford a place to live or decent medical care, odds are they wont make it. >> I can see why a socialist Brit like you would think >> the way you do. Why bother buying when a Council house >> is available so cheaply. > > Council houses ( social housing for those not common with the term ) are > not easy > to come by these days. I think unsettled is stuck around the 1960's. I would be interested to see where council housing is available (granted they are cheap), most people have some serious waiting to do. All he is doing is hand waving, he throws out what he thinks are "worthy" phrases (look after the pennies... rags to riches.. etc) but in reality none of it conflicts with what is being said and often supports it.
From: T Wake on 18 Nov 2006 15:44
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:455F62DF.A7F23744(a)hotmail.com... > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >So you accept that in America, dying from absence of health care is not >> >unknown ? >> >> Huh? Everybody dies. There is no such thing as a cure for everything. > > That isn't what I said. > > I said *die from a lack of health care* as in say die from some infection > whilst > still young, not die of old age. Clearly you know you have no 'answer' to > that > one. He has no answers any more. (If he ever did). |