From: jmfbahciv on 19 Nov 2006 07:51 In article <455F60CA.164756ED(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: <snip> >You ( and your Dad ) have my sympathies fwiw. Thanks. It's not affecting me as much as Mom. I went through this kind of bullshit with JMF. It is caused by not having GPs practicing. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 19 Nov 2006 08:00 In article <C184A4F7.4D677%dbowey(a)comcast.net>, Don Bowey <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote: >On 11/18/06 5:26 AM, in article >ejn1lq$8qk_001(a)s771.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com, "jmfbahciv(a)aol.com" ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> In article <C1832D44.4D381%dbowey(a)comcast.net>, >> Don Bowey <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote: >>> On 11/17/06 4:58 AM, in article >>> ejkblm$8qk_012(a)s922.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com, "jmfbahciv(a)aol.com" >>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>> >>>> In article <455C8889.E558C69B(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> How many referrals do you think the person should be allowed? >>>>>> >>>>>> At the moment, I'd like to limit the number of referrals a _doctor_ >>>>>> can make. Dad's on his 6th or 7th referral. And the basic stuff >>>>>> hasn't been done yet. They're playing the Medicare system to its >>>>>> max. >>>>> >>>>> You need an 'NHS'. >>>> >>>> He is on the US' NHS called Medicare. Diagnosis of an ill old >>>> person now takes lots of referrals and tests and stuff. >>> >>> Your a complete, devious idiot, or you may be just a troll. >>> >>> *Regardless* of age, multiple referrals may be required. I'm an ill, old >>> (not really - just 70) person with another illness, and the first referral >>> by my PCP resulted in a likely cause diagnosis, requiring a second one which >>> firmed the diagnosis. Another referral resulted in a plan for part of the >>> treatment, etc., etc. >>> >>> So what in the hell is your real problem with what's going on with your dad, >>> and what's with your pathetic attitude? >>> >>> By the way, some illnesses aren't fixable. >> >> Exactly. He is dying. Yet he is getting tested and chunks >> taken out even though he has no intention of being "treated" >> if they decide what he has. > >It is his choice to be treated or not. They *cannot* force him. That doesn't keep the doctors from trying. For some strange reason the medical profession doesn't seem to handle end of life events well at all. If you are so sick you cannot fight for yourself, you get stuck in these round robin scenarios. > >> >>> Get used to that concept and try >>> to not blame anyone if that is the case. >> >> He can barely walk from his chair to the bathroom now. Yet >> he has to go into the doctor's office every time they "need" >> to talk to him. This is stupid. They have already diagnosed >> him to have lymphoma; four days later, they have diagnosed >> him to not have lymphoma. The same thing happened with >> a diabetes diagnosis this week. Next week he's going in to >> have yet another CT scan and more blood work. So I expect >> they will diangose another disease and then undiagnose it. > >Lymphoma is rather straightforward to diagnose, but requires at least one >(simple) surgery to remove lymph nodes to study, He had two. >and probably will require >another (simple) procedure to pull bone marrow from the hip or thereabouts. >At that point you have it or you don't, and with the CAT scans, you know how >far it's gone. *These require referrals.* The labs even delved into an exotic disease diagnosis. > >At his age treatment (chemo) will be given at about 4 week intervals for >probably 6 times. Each chemo treatment may be spread through several days >and will require him to travel to the clinic. Each day he goes in, blood >lab work is required, and he will see the doctor. They may need another CAT >scan. The first treatment will leave him weak, with nausea, but a few days >before the next treatment, he may start feeling much better. And so it >continues..... Following subsequent treatments he will feel better, sooner. He doesn't want that. Chemo will kill him sooner than anything he has. > >One of the chemcical mixes in the chemo treatment, affects the blood/sugar >level. If your dad is even a marginal Type 2 diabetic, it will cause him to >have a high blood/sugar which will need to be treated. If he is a diabetic >who had it under control through weight loss and diet, he will need to go >back on his diabetic meds for a week or so after teach week of chemo. > >Lymphoma is a Cancer, but it has a fairly high rate of cure. But it's not lymphoma any more. > >> >> This is how Medicare is sucked dry. > >By now you must understand that I totally disagree. Alternatively, I >believe you are totally out of touch with the facts. He is yellow. They have yet to do a simple hepatitis test. He cannot swallow without invoking the gag reflex. They have yet to look down his throat. His voice has changed. I've been through these symptoms before with JMF. > >> >> Meanwhile, they haven't done any of the obvious. All Dad wants >> is for them to stop and send in Hospice. But he can't get >> Hospice services until one of these idiots signs the paper. > >It's up to your dad to select: A. Maybe live longer, or B. Very likely >die soon. In the meanwhile, he CAN refuse treatment and force the issue. >Got that? It's HIS choice and it sounds like he has not made a choice, but >is just letting the oncologist He hasn't seen an oncologist yet. > do what he thinks is in his patient's best >interest. DO SOMETHING other that berate what you refuse to understand. > >Quality of life is important and must be considered, and the effects of >treatment must be factored in BY YOUR DAD, possibly with your help. I can't help. I'm not there. I understand about quality of life. > >Good Luck to you both. Don't waste any time dealing with this. > >By the way, I seem to be beating my extensive lymphoma. No comments on >this, please. I'm not depressed, unhappy, worried, etc. [emoticon makes a toast...skoal] /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 19 Nov 2006 08:02 In article <455F6110.D7D37531(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Don Bowey <dbowey(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >> > >> >> How would a person find out about drugs? The naming is bad >> >> enough. Trying to find out all the side effects, efficacies, >> >> etc. is very diffitult to do. The existence of the net is helping. >> >> >> >> /BAH >> > >> >Finding the side effects of every drug is SO SIMPLE anyone with a computer >> >could do it. Further, in the US most pharmacies provide a sheet of such >> >info with each prescription drug they provide. >> > >> >Get Real! >> > >> You have just made my point. It is the patient who has to do all >> this learning and analyzing and work. > >It shouldn't be. This doesn't happen here. Of course it shouldn't happen. But this is what does happen when everybody is a specialist and not a general practitioner. Nobody knows how to do general diagnases. And all problems are to be solved with a pill. /BAH
From: Eeyore on 19 Nov 2006 08:11 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >> Now > >> a good TTY operator can "remember" what wasn't done and catch > >> up after the mess is dealt with. > > > >You really ought to get away from the idea of TTYs you know. > > > >Terminals have moved on somewhat. > > Just because today's computer tech now use complete systems > for data entry and access to another computer system does > not change the TTY functionality. They do a lot more than a teletype ever did though. Graham
From: jmfbahciv on 19 Nov 2006 08:09
In article <b8682$455f2266$49ecfa8$11750(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> In article <88717$455dddd0$4fe7798$2705(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>>In article <455C9BC9.30B08330(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>><snip> >>>> >>>>>>I don't have a com port. >>>>> >>>>>On a 486 ? You normally have 2. What does your modem connect to ? >>>>> >>>>>That would be astonishingly unusual ! Where does the mouse go ? >>>> >>>> >>>>Serial ports. >>> >>>It seems to have begun with some terminals which labelled >>>their RS232 ports with the logo "com". >> >> >> Oh, I see. I never considered series nor parallel ports as >> "comm ports". > >Smaller words....... Nope. It looks like the logical device names used in DOS have leaked out to become common nouns. Like TTY became a common noun for keyboard thingies. Our device names for terminals were TTY001, TTY002,....TTYnnn. The same thing seems to happened to COM when people brought up on PCs talk about ports. /BAH |