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From: Don Bowey on 19 Nov 2006 15:26 On 11/19/06 11:57 AM, in article 21a11$4560b714$49ecf8b$27002(a)DIALUPUSA.NET, "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > Don Bowey wrote: > >> On 11/19/06 6:56 AM, in article 32e4a$45607088$4fe77d5$25668(a)DIALUPUSA.NET, >> "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >> >> >>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>> In article <455F631B.49B507AF(a)hotmail.com>, >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> It seems to have begun with some terminals which labelled >>>>>>> their RS232 ports with the logo "com". >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh, I see. I never considered series nor parallel ports as >>>>>> "comm ports". >>>>> >>>>> A parallel port isn't a COM port though. Just the serial ones. >>>> >>>> >>>> Unless you get a modem that can deal with parallel ports. >>> >>> I have a numeric keyboard and software that uses the >>> parallel port to key data into a PC. >>> >> >> >> And that relates to a modem in what manner? > > Whenever you are unable to follow the logic of an ordinary > conversation I urge you to repress your impulse to post > nonsense. > You're the one with the lack of logical acuity and who can't seem to follow a thread.
From: Phineas T Puddleduck on 19 Nov 2006 16:00 In article <7oOdnYDFzIJj5_3YRVnyiA(a)pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > It may be the five year wait, or it may be the desire to have a "house of > their own." Whatever it is, the incentive is certainly there - despite what > unsettled may be trying to imply. Poor people do indeed work hard, save > money and buy houses of their own. > > Amazing isn't it? My father was an immigrant to the UK. We grew up with barely enough money to survive. I'm now doing reasonably comfortable. Of course, in that pillocks world, poor people just sit there and moan, of course. -- Thermodynamics claims another crown! http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/heacon.html -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
From: Don Bowey on 19 Nov 2006 16:15 On 11/19/06 12:23 PM, in article d8d08$4560bd36$49ecf8b$27170(a)DIALUPUSA.NET, "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > Don Bowey wrote: > >> On 11/19/06 11:34 AM, in article >> MPG.1fca7be039dea278989bf9(a)news.individual.net, "krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> >> wrote: >> >> >>> In article <C185D3FB.4D876%dbowey(a)comcast.net>, dbowey(a)comcast.net >>> says... >>> >>>> On 11/19/06 6:12 AM, in article >>>> ejpoot$8qk_022(a)s1014.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com, "jmfbahciv(a)aol.com" >>>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> In article <456057F9.BBA34F55(a)hotmail.com>, >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now >>>>>>>>> a good TTY operator can "remember" what wasn't done and catch >>>>>>>>> up after the mess is dealt with. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You really ought to get away from the idea of TTYs you know. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Terminals have moved on somewhat. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just because today's computer tech now use complete systems >>>>>>> for data entry and access to another computer system does >>>>>>> not change the TTY functionality. >>>>>> >>>>>> They do a lot more than a teletype ever did though. >>>>> >>>>> When I say TTY, I'm talking about how the gear is used, >>>>> not it's capability nor capacity. >>>>> >>>>> /BAH >>>> >>>> A TTY keyboard used a current loop, typically 20 mA. When a key was >>>> pressed, the selector bars would fall into notches, mechanically encoding >>>> the opening and closing of the 20 mA. loop to generate the code pulses. >>> >>> The difference between a current loop, RS-232, or LAN aren't of >>> much importance in this context. >>> >>> >>>> When receiving, the TTY machine would mechanically decode the series of 20 >>>> mA. pulses and shift the selector bars to set-up the right character to >>>> print. >>> >>> How the internals of an A/KSR-33 worked isn't of much importance >>> here either. >> >> >> >> Gosh you know a TTY machine type. How about models 14, 15, 19, 28, 35? >> >> >>>> This has nothing in common with a modern computer. If you wish to misuse >>>> the terminology you are free to do so, but there is no way you can >>>> rationally support it, technically. SED is STILL, sort of a technical >>>> Board >>>> (I think), so it would be nice of you to at least try, >>> >>> The fact is that these computers are nothing more than a dumb >>> terminal is, however. >> >> >> My comments are relevant to what "TTY" denotes. >> >> A "TTY" was NEVER a computer. > > Are you ever going to run out of straw men, or do you have > hordes of elves constantly making new ones for you to use. > You can't tell the difference between an unarguable fact and a debatable point. No straw man is called for here. Your lack of acuity is greater in scope than I had imagined.
From: unsettled on 19 Nov 2006 17:33 Don Bowey protests in vain: > On 11/19/06 11:57 AM, in article 21a11$4560b714$49ecf8b$27002(a)DIALUPUSA.NET, > "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > > >>Don Bowey wrote: >> >> >>>On 11/19/06 6:56 AM, in article 32e4a$45607088$4fe77d5$25668(a)DIALUPUSA.NET, >>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>In article <455F631B.49B507AF(a)hotmail.com>, >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>It seems to have begun with some terminals which labelled >>>>>>>>their RS232 ports with the logo "com". >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Oh, I see. I never considered series nor parallel ports as >>>>>>>"comm ports". >>>>>> >>>>>>A parallel port isn't a COM port though. Just the serial ones. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Unless you get a modem that can deal with parallel ports. >>>> >>>>I have a numeric keyboard and software that uses the >>>>parallel port to key data into a PC. >>>> >>> >>> >>>And that relates to a modem in what manner? >> >>Whenever you are unable to follow the logic of an ordinary >>conversation I urge you to repress your impulse to post >>nonsense. >> > > > You're the one with the lack of logical acuity and who can't seem to follow > a thread. Oh dear, I hope you don't do science this way.
From: unsettled on 19 Nov 2006 17:36
Don Bowey wrote: > On 11/19/06 12:23 PM, in article d8d08$4560bd36$49ecf8b$27170(a)DIALUPUSA.NET, > "unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > > >>Don Bowey wrote: >> >> >>>On 11/19/06 11:34 AM, in article >>>MPG.1fca7be039dea278989bf9(a)news.individual.net, "krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> >>>wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>In article <C185D3FB.4D876%dbowey(a)comcast.net>, dbowey(a)comcast.net >>>>says... >>>> >>>> >>>>>On 11/19/06 6:12 AM, in article >>>>>ejpoot$8qk_022(a)s1014.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com, "jmfbahciv(a)aol.com" >>>>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>In article <456057F9.BBA34F55(a)hotmail.com>, >>>>>>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Now >>>>>>>>>>a good TTY operator can "remember" what wasn't done and catch >>>>>>>>>>up after the mess is dealt with. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>You really ought to get away from the idea of TTYs you know. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Terminals have moved on somewhat. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Just because today's computer tech now use complete systems >>>>>>>>for data entry and access to another computer system does >>>>>>>>not change the TTY functionality. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>They do a lot more than a teletype ever did though. >>>>>> >>>>>>When I say TTY, I'm talking about how the gear is used, >>>>>>not it's capability nor capacity. >>>>>> >>>>>>/BAH >>>>> >>>>>A TTY keyboard used a current loop, typically 20 mA. When a key was >>>>>pressed, the selector bars would fall into notches, mechanically encoding >>>>>the opening and closing of the 20 mA. loop to generate the code pulses. >>>> >>>>The difference between a current loop, RS-232, or LAN aren't of >>>>much importance in this context. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>When receiving, the TTY machine would mechanically decode the series of 20 >>>>>mA. pulses and shift the selector bars to set-up the right character to >>>>>print. >>>> >>>>How the internals of an A/KSR-33 worked isn't of much importance >>>>here either. >>> >>> >>> >>>Gosh you know a TTY machine type. How about models 14, 15, 19, 28, 35? >>> >>> >>> >>>>>This has nothing in common with a modern computer. If you wish to misuse >>>>>the terminology you are free to do so, but there is no way you can >>>>>rationally support it, technically. SED is STILL, sort of a technical >>>>>Board >>>>>(I think), so it would be nice of you to at least try, >>>> >>>>The fact is that these computers are nothing more than a dumb >>>>terminal is, however. >>> >>> >>>My comments are relevant to what "TTY" denotes. >>> >>>A "TTY" was NEVER a computer. >> >>Are you ever going to run out of straw men, or do you have >>hordes of elves constantly making new ones for you to use. >> > > > You can't tell the difference between an unarguable fact and a debatable > point. No straw man is called for here. Your lack of acuity is greater in > scope than I had imagined. > A minor correction in your rhetoric: s/fact/fiction/p |