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From: krw on 19 Nov 2006 13:47 In article <455D44CD.9B302A64(a)hotmail.com>, rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > krw wrote: > > > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > krw wrote: > > > > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > > > > > > > Please stop evading the question. > > > > > > > > > > How does a ( young ) person on low wages get any medical tretment ? > > > > > > > > The same way their parents get medical treatment. For example, my > > > > son was on my insurance until he was 23. Though he had his own when > > > > he was 22, I didn't trust it. ...turns out his is at least as good > > > > as mine. > > > > > > And if your parents are dead by that age as mine were ? > > > > My father died when I was 12, so? > > Were *both* your parents dead by the time you were 18 ? No, my mother is still living 42 years later, so? Children aren't thrown into the streets on this side of the pond. -- Keith
From: krw on 19 Nov 2006 13:47 In article <455DDBAA.13888084(a)hotmail.com>, rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > >I can just see it...lobbying groups like People Against Treatment of > > >Appendicitis will spring up all over the place. You are truly loony. > > > > This kind of thing is happening. Look at any stem cell research > > politics. > > None of which has anything to do with any 'NHS'. Actually it does have to do with the 'N' part. The "stem cell research" flap is all about *federal* funds for this research. There is no law that says a corporation can't do this research, but for some reason they don't. Hint: not one person has been cured using fetal stem cells but thousands have been treated using adult stem cells. I wonder why the money is following the latter and the politicians are driving the former? -- Keith
From: krw on 19 Nov 2006 14:34 In article <C185D3FB.4D876%dbowey(a)comcast.net>, dbowey(a)comcast.net says... > On 11/19/06 6:12 AM, in article > ejpoot$8qk_022(a)s1014.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com, "jmfbahciv(a)aol.com" > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > In article <456057F9.BBA34F55(a)hotmail.com>, > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> > >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Now > >>>>> a good TTY operator can "remember" what wasn't done and catch > >>>>> up after the mess is dealt with. > >>>> > >>>> You really ought to get away from the idea of TTYs you know. > >>>> > >>>> Terminals have moved on somewhat. > >>> > >>> Just because today's computer tech now use complete systems > >>> for data entry and access to another computer system does > >>> not change the TTY functionality. > >> > >> They do a lot more than a teletype ever did though. > > > > When I say TTY, I'm talking about how the gear is used, > > not it's capability nor capacity. > > > > /BAH > > A TTY keyboard used a current loop, typically 20 mA. When a key was > pressed, the selector bars would fall into notches, mechanically encoding > the opening and closing of the 20 mA. loop to generate the code pulses. The difference between a current loop, RS-232, or LAN aren't of much importance in this context. > When receiving, the TTY machine would mechanically decode the series of 20 > mA. pulses and shift the selector bars to set-up the right character to > print. How the internals of an A/KSR-33 worked isn't of much importance here either. > This has nothing in common with a modern computer. If you wish to misuse > the terminology you are free to do so, but there is no way you can > rationally support it, technically. SED is STILL, sort of a technical Board > (I think), so it would be nice of you to at least try, The fact is that these computers are nothing more than a dumb terminal is, however. -- Keith
From: krw on 19 Nov 2006 14:46 In article <ejk8cc$8qk_001(a)s922.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... > In article <MPG.1fc6fd7540cb3520989bba(a)news.individual.net>, > krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > >In article <ejhoi9$8qk_002(a)s938.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... > >> In article <MPG.1fc5b8c43468d032989b90(a)news.individual.net>, > >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > >> >In article <ejf4nd$8qk_002(a)s792.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... > >> >> In article <MPG.1fc3bbe568ee60e1989b38(a)news.individual.net>, > >> >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > <snip> > > >> >The machine shop where my dad worked had a pipe die set. They'd > >> >let me use it (with supervision) for a project I was doing. After > >> >I was all done the bastards showed me the power threader (similar > >> >to what HomeDespot has now). ;-) > >> > >> I never saw a power threader operate. > > > >Get thee down to the HomeDespot and wait around. It's an amazing > >beast. I don't think they even charge for it, > > Huh...I've been giving them quite a bit of money lately. You and me both. I think my bank has a direct connection to their computer (thousands of dollars of the past six months). > I don't > remember seeing nor hearing something like that. Although one > does need a horse to get around that place. I'll try to find > it next time I need to make a contribution to them. Look back in the plumbing department in the aisle with the pipe stacked from floor to ceiling. > They > were the only ones who had 1"x1"x42" A/C sponge stuff at this > time of year. And they weren't charging $5/packet. Sponge stuff? Filters? > > >though the last > >timeI used black pipe for anything other than clamps was, > ><mumble>... > > <GRIN> Do I dare ask? Computers were new to you. ;-) <snip> > >> What was your project? > > > >I built a wind-powered land cruiser (think ice-boat with wheels). > > Kewl. > >It was marginally successful. I really didn't have enough space to > >use it. ...and it turned out to be quite heavy. Lotsa education > >though. > > What state were you in? Did you have a hill to get a jumpstart? 150mi. South of Chicago. Not a hill within a day's drive. ;-) -- Keith
From: Don Bowey on 19 Nov 2006 14:47
On 11/19/06 11:34 AM, in article MPG.1fca7be039dea278989bf9(a)news.individual.net, "krw" <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > In article <C185D3FB.4D876%dbowey(a)comcast.net>, dbowey(a)comcast.net > says... >> On 11/19/06 6:12 AM, in article >> ejpoot$8qk_022(a)s1014.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com, "jmfbahciv(a)aol.com" >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote: >> >>> In article <456057F9.BBA34F55(a)hotmail.com>, >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Now >>>>>>> a good TTY operator can "remember" what wasn't done and catch >>>>>>> up after the mess is dealt with. >>>>>> >>>>>> You really ought to get away from the idea of TTYs you know. >>>>>> >>>>>> Terminals have moved on somewhat. >>>>> >>>>> Just because today's computer tech now use complete systems >>>>> for data entry and access to another computer system does >>>>> not change the TTY functionality. >>>> >>>> They do a lot more than a teletype ever did though. >>> >>> When I say TTY, I'm talking about how the gear is used, >>> not it's capability nor capacity. >>> >>> /BAH >> >> A TTY keyboard used a current loop, typically 20 mA. When a key was >> pressed, the selector bars would fall into notches, mechanically encoding >> the opening and closing of the 20 mA. loop to generate the code pulses. > > The difference between a current loop, RS-232, or LAN aren't of > much importance in this context. > >> When receiving, the TTY machine would mechanically decode the series of 20 >> mA. pulses and shift the selector bars to set-up the right character to >> print. > > How the internals of an A/KSR-33 worked isn't of much importance > here either. Gosh you know a TTY machine type. How about models 14, 15, 19, 28, 35? > >> This has nothing in common with a modern computer. If you wish to misuse >> the terminology you are free to do so, but there is no way you can >> rationally support it, technically. SED is STILL, sort of a technical Board >> (I think), so it would be nice of you to at least try, > > The fact is that these computers are nothing more than a dumb > terminal is, however. My comments are relevant to what "TTY" denotes. A "TTY" was NEVER a computer. Don |