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From: Eeyore on 19 Nov 2006 23:19 krw wrote: > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> >That's not how people at McDonald's give change. That's not how anybody > > > >> >gives change any more, they just give over the amount of money the cash > > > >> >register tells them to. If the bill is 5.35, and you give them a 10, the > > > >> >register will tell them to give you 4.65 in change, and they do. No > > > >> >special skills necessary or learned. > > > >> > > > >> You are wrong. It takes learning to know which coins are which > > > >> value. It takes learning to know what 1 and 5 and 10 and 20 > > > >> mean on the paper bills. > > > > > > > >Ohhh ...... puh-leeze.......... !! > > > > > > > >> There are people who do not know this stuff. If kids have > > > >> never handled money, have never been taught what money is, > > > >> how will they know that a dime is $.10? > > > > > > > >Ohhh ...... puh-leeze.......... !! > > > > > > You are not thinking. If kids' experience is only with > > > credit card swipes, and their parents don't pay using > > > cash, how are the kids going to learn about denominations > > > and counting out currency money? > > > > Well..... they won't learn that from working at McDonalds for sure. > > Why? McDonalds pays real money. They offer real benefits. Why > wouldn't kids learn how to handle money by being employed? It's > certainly better than learning to live off the government! Please pay attention. BAH was talking about kids learning to *count* change not just hand it over ! There'll be no counting of change involved at McDonalds. Graham
From: krw on 19 Nov 2006 23:22 In article <ejkc7b$8qk_016(a)s922.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... > In article <MPG.1fc686b43a2829e8989ba6(a)news.individual.net>, > krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > >In article <ejhv0f$8qk_015(a)s938.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... > >> In article <MPG.1fc3cafce1cb3355989b42(a)news.individual.net>, > >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > >> >In article <ejcl5p$8qk_009(a)s858.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... > >> >> In article <MPG.1fc25ed1ed313919989b01(a)news.individual.net>, > >> >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > >> >> >In article <ej9j89$8ss_002(a)s785.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, > >> >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com says... > >> >> >> In article <MPG.1fc110d0730ee4c8989af1(a)news.individual.net>, > >> >> >> krw <krw(a)att.bizzzz> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> <snip> > >> >> > >> >> >> >Sure, but they learn not to do that! ;-) Falling on CCA treated > >> >> >> >SYP isn't much fun either. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> My feet are shuddering just thinking about walking on that trex > >> >> >> stuff. > >> >> > > >> >> >Trex isn't likely to leave a nasty arsenic coated splinter (I wear > >> >> >shoes when walking on my CCA SYP deck). > >> >> > >> >> Point. I haven't gone barefoot since I lived with my folks. > >> >> Urban places have too much broken glass that never gets > >> >> cleaned up. > >> > > >> >That's because no one will pay minimum wage to clean it up so the > >> >job doesn't get done. ;-) > >> > >> <GRIN> The broken glass was awful before the bottle bill. It's > >> been getting worse lately. Perople areound here have too much > >> money. > > > >That's one of the intrusions into our lives I don't object to much. > >Maybe it's time to raise the deposit. I think MI has been $.10 for > >many years. The non-removeable pop-tops are another good idea. > > Those are OK for pop or any liquids. They are not OK for soup cans. > I hate them. And the cans cannot be opened at the bottom with > a can opener. Lately I've been eating soup for lunch. SWMBO buys the "pop-top" soup cans. They seem to work pretty well for me. The bastards are sharp after opening though. > > One of the ways we made money as kids was picking up bottles and > getting the deposit for them. Yep! The "homeless" pick up what people don't want to return. We normally give ours to the Boy Scouts, but we buy very little of this stuff anymore. A friend had his SO's son take his returns back and got $82.60. Think about it! We haven't let him forget it. ;-) -- Keith
From: unsettled on 19 Nov 2006 23:23 krw wrote: > In article <75e51$4560fd77$49ed817$28554(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled(a)nonsense.com says... > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >>>In article <b8682$455f2266$49ecfa8$11750(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>In article <88717$455dddd0$4fe7798$2705(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>In article <455C9BC9.30B08330(a)hotmail.com>, >>>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>><snip> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I don't have a com port. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On a 486 ? You normally have 2. What does your modem connect to ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>That would be astonishingly unusual ! Where does the mouse go ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Serial ports. >>>>>> >>>>>>It seems to have begun with some terminals which labelled >>>>>>their RS232 ports with the logo "com". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Oh, I see. I never considered series nor parallel ports as >>>>>"comm ports". >>>> >>>>Smaller words....... >>> >>> >>>Nope. >> >>I don't have the patience with these clowns that you've >>been granting them. I took a logical shortcut. >> >> >>>It looks like the logical device names used in DOS have >>>leaked out to become common nouns. Like TTY became a common >>>noun for keyboard thingies. Our device names for terminals >>>were TTY001, TTY002,....TTYnnn. >> >>There's an entire discussion to be had about that, however >>we digress. >> >>I am constantly amazed at the depth of the rage and the >>superficiality of the knowledge several of the participants >>repeatedly demonstrate. Never once has anyone mentioned the >>word asynchronous. I am led to believe that would be more >>than they want to know. >> >> >>>The same thing seems to happened to COM when people brought >>>up on PCs talk about ports. >> >>Here's the thing. There have always been (since the >>onset of personal computing) other operating systems >>and computers available. These memes that have crept >>into computer parlance have been adapted pretty much >>across the board. Then came PS2 ports and USB. But I >>don't want to upset the angry little boys any more >>than they've already managed on their own. > > > Indeed, some here (ahem, BAH ;) have been around a little longer > than MSDOS. Kids are always trying to prove their manhood. ... > seems even the female kids. I considered msdos to be a step backwards when I was finally forced to use the little boxes.
From: krw on 19 Nov 2006 23:27 In article <45612CE2.9EA2898B(a)hotmail.com>, rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > krw wrote: > > > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > > >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> >That's not how people at McDonald's give change. That's not how anybody > > > > >> >gives change any more, they just give over the amount of money the cash > > > > >> >register tells them to. If the bill is 5.35, and you give them a 10, the > > > > >> >register will tell them to give you 4.65 in change, and they do. No > > > > >> >special skills necessary or learned. > > > > >> > > > > >> You are wrong. It takes learning to know which coins are which > > > > >> value. It takes learning to know what 1 and 5 and 10 and 20 > > > > >> mean on the paper bills. > > > > > > > > > >Ohhh ...... puh-leeze.......... !! > > > > > > > > > >> There are people who do not know this stuff. If kids have > > > > >> never handled money, have never been taught what money is, > > > > >> how will they know that a dime is $.10? > > > > > > > > > >Ohhh ...... puh-leeze.......... !! > > > > > > > > You are not thinking. If kids' experience is only with > > > > credit card swipes, and their parents don't pay using > > > > cash, how are the kids going to learn about denominations > > > > and counting out currency money? > > > > > > Well..... they won't learn that from working at McDonalds for sure. > > > > Why? McDonalds pays real money. They offer real benefits. Why > > wouldn't kids learn how to handle money by being employed? It's > > certainly better than learning to live off the government! > > Please pay attention. BAH was talking about kids learning to *count* change not just > hand it over ! Please pay attention. BAH isn't as stupid as you assume. Handling money is more than counting change. It's all about responsibility. > There'll be no counting of change involved at McDonalds. You haven't a clue, obviously. -- Keith
From: Eeyore on 20 Nov 2006 01:01
krw wrote: > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > krw wrote: > > > rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > > > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > > > >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >That's not how people at McDonald's give change. That's not how anybody > > > > > >> >gives change any more, they just give over the amount of money the cash > > > > > >> >register tells them to. If the bill is 5.35, and you give them a 10, the > > > > > >> >register will tell them to give you 4.65 in change, and they do. No > > > > > >> >special skills necessary or learned. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> You are wrong. It takes learning to know which coins are which > > > > > >> value. It takes learning to know what 1 and 5 and 10 and 20 > > > > > >> mean on the paper bills. > > > > > > > > > > > >Ohhh ...... puh-leeze.......... !! > > > > > > > > > > > >> There are people who do not know this stuff. If kids have > > > > > >> never handled money, have never been taught what money is, > > > > > >> how will they know that a dime is $.10? > > > > > > > > > > > >Ohhh ...... puh-leeze.......... !! > > > > > > > > > > You are not thinking. If kids' experience is only with > > > > > credit card swipes, and their parents don't pay using > > > > > cash, how are the kids going to learn about denominations > > > > > and counting out currency money? > > > > > > > > Well..... they won't learn that from working at McDonalds for sure. > > > > > > Why? McDonalds pays real money. They offer real benefits. Why > > > wouldn't kids learn how to handle money by being employed? It's > > > certainly better than learning to live off the government! > > > > Please pay attention. BAH was talking about kids learning to *count* change not just > > hand it over ! > > Please pay attention. BAH isn't as stupid as you assume. Handling > money is more than counting change. It's all about responsibility. > > > There'll be no counting of change involved at McDonalds. > > You haven't a clue, obviously. Oh puh-leeze ! Graham |