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From: Ken Smith on 19 Jan 2007 10:16 In article <45B0D403.724737B0(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: [....] >> Now read the past few weeks' weather reports. > >What would I find there ? You will find a bunch of folks in the LA area had trouble getting to their jobs because of snow. Some largish fraction of the orange crop has been frozen. The growers had the pickers working all the hours that had enough light to see trying to pick the crop before it got damaged. The price of oranges in the stores will go up because of this. The growers have taken a fairly big hit. They had to pay the pickers for the overtime work but didn't get the normal yeld from their trees. The fruit has the most money in it right now so this is the worst time for bad things to happen, This weird weather we are seeing has cost the state a goodly bit of money. A few people may have to put off buying a new car or live without seat warmers. This tragedy of epic proportions has been caused by the weather, which we all know was caused by the increase in minimum wages. > >Graham > -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: Ken Smith on 19 Jan 2007 10:25 In article <45AF83E3.E3522718(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >> ><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >> >> > >> >> >> Why do you people keep forgetting Syria? None seem to think >> >> >> about Egypt. >> >> > >> >> >No one forgets Syria and people do think of about Egypt. As I pointed out >> >> >to you in a previous post both those nations are important. >> >> > >> >> >From a military point of view Syria is almost a joke, Israel pretty much >> >> >ensures Syria is never going invade another country. Syria has no signs of >> >> >developing nuclear weapons. >> >> >> >> You are being foolish. They don't have to develop them; all >> >> they have to do is buy them or acquire them from a neighbor. >> > >> >Other than Pakistan who would that be ? Israel ! ? >> >> You really don't seem to be paying attention to what's going on. >> The guy in North Korea has already said he wants to sell some. > >A. They're not exactly a neighbour. > >B. They've only got duds so far. C. He has a good bargaining chip until he actually sells it. -- -- kensmith(a)rahul.net forging knowledge
From: unsettled on 19 Jan 2007 10:55 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <35a8$45afa609$4fe7416$11910(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>snip >> >> >>>The problem that caused 9/11 >>>have existed for a century. >> >>Many centuries. > No. This is the death throes of the Ottman Empire. > Islam is currently trying to cope with the fact that > it hasn't changed with the centuries of industrial, > and then technical revolution. Having nothing to do with the demise of the Ottoman Empire. Delete line 1 above, then examine the validity of the rest of the statement as it stands alone. That may be moderate Islam, certainly not the Imams and Mullahs seeking to wrest even greater control over their followers. There's an old trick used at political rallies. Announce that the group wants to make the world a better place by doing XYZ. Then ask all those who are in agreement to stand up. Once a few who are friends of the speaker stand up, most, if not all, of the audience will stand up because action always seems like the right thing to do. > Now the regular peoples > are able to buy and use technology and products that > the Imans or Clerics have not approved. They are resisting > the pressure from below to approve stuff; since this stuff > is all produced by Western capitalistic enterprises, the normal > human reaction of people who have had power for tens of generations > would be to destroy the source of the pressure. However, this > source would kill them without a bat of an eyelast, so they target > the manufacturers. Fundies of all stripes are asked to forego pleasures, sometimes necessities. I doubt the source is the problem.
From: Eeyore on 19 Jan 2007 11:06 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > > > >> The problem that caused 9/11 > >> have existed for a century. > > > >Many centuries. > > No. This is the death throes of the Ottman Empire. > Islam is currently trying to cope with the fact that > it hasn't changed with the centuries of industrial, > and then technical revolution. You're very mistaken to put all of Islam under one umbrella. There are far far more 'modern' Muslims than there are ones who want to live like peasants and impose Sharia Law. > Now the regular peoples > are able to buy and use technology and products that > the Imans or Clerics have not approved. They are resisting > the pressure from below to approve stuff; since this stuff > is all produced by Western capitalistic enterprises, the normal > human reaction of people who have had power for tens of generations > would be to destroy the source of the pressure. However, this > source would kill them without a bat of an eyelast, so they target > the manufacturers. You're barking mad. Graham
From: Eeyore on 19 Jan 2007 11:10
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >> Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >You say that others 'decided.' By this, I take it that you mean that > >> >anything the US does to respond to 9/11 is justified merely by the > >> >fact of it. In other words, the act was horrible, the results were > >> >horrible, and therefore anything and everything we do in response is > >> >justified. > >> > >> No, 9/11 was the last wakeup call. The problem that caused 9/11 > >> have existed for a century. > > > >What utter nonsense. > > > >There was no 'Palestinian problem' as we know it 100 yrs ago > > You might try to read some of your history. I suggest you do actually. 100 yrs ago Palestine was under Ottoman rule. > > nor were US troops stationed in the Middle East. > > Then these problems cannot be the fault of the US. False premise since you denies my previous point. > So why do you keep requesting the US' help to deal with them when it > requires killing? I don't. > > Israel didn't even exist. > > When did Balfour write his papers. When did Lawrence of Arabia > do his work in the Middle East? When was control of the sea > lanes of the eastern Mediterranean the cause of of hostile > engagements? > > Look at every colonization fight going on at the turn of that > century. If you want to turn the clock back that far why not introduce the Battle of the Nile too ? What would you conclude from that ? Graham |