From: JoeBloe on
On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 20:21:48 +0100, "T Wake"
<usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> Gave us:

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>"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
>news:vgdci29a8p13kfhhs2i6rnm9b36duq7r72(a)4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 03:06:03 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> Gave us:
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>>>
>>>"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
>>>news:regbi2dpkrf103e4opion58ooto1lmft2c(a)4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> It is you, fuckhead, that is incredulous.
>>>
>>>Yes, I suspect it is he who is incredulous at your idiocy. I think the
>>>word
>>>you wanted is "incredible", as in "not credible".
>>>
>>
>> No. It was said just fine.
>>
>> Nothing you say carries any credence either.
>
>Ooh, such a big word. Did you have to look it up? Bet you had a little lie
>down afterwards, didn't you?
>
I'd bet that I used the word many more years ago than you ever did,
and in these groups too.
From: Ken Smith on
In article <HRBVg.66$45.199(a)news.uchicago.edu>,
<mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>In article <eg5og7$hr$4(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken
>Smith) writes:
[....]
>>It was a lot better than the risk of starting a war between two nations
>>with nukes. The amount of warning would have only been enough if they had
>>OBL on speed dial.
>>
>And what makes you think they didn't:-)

They wouldn't for security reasons :>


>Now, Tomahawks are subsonic. From the nearest possible launch point
>to the intended target deep in Aghanistan they must've taken at least
>half an hour. Ample time to make a call and ample time for the
>intended target to get away.

In fact, it appears he changed his plans before the phone call happened.

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From: Ken Smith on
In article <FN9Vg.19673$Ij.18806(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>"Ken Smith" <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote in message
>news:eg32g6$okg$3(a)blue.rahul.net...
>> In article <f%jUg.19041$Ij.8532(a)newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>What makes you think nuking Mecca would have anything but a very, very
>>>negative effect on us?
>>
>> Note that I said "theat". I was suggesting that the threat would work so
>> I don't need to respond to this.
>
>Yes you do. Hollow threats are worthless.


Note that I said "treat" not "Hollow threat" so, again I don't need to
respond to this.


[....]
>They're crazy, not stupid. They know that *we* wouldn't be stupid enough to
>nuke anything, because the threat is too diffuse.

This argument doesn't work. They only need to be convinced that the US
thinks it isn't a stupid idea. When you go to war against a country, you
bomb its capital regardless of how large of a land mass the country
covers.


>> I strongly disagree. The second example of life in prison, I believe,
>> would work on many of them.
>
>So how many prisons will we need to build, and what fraction of the GDP will
>go into staffing/supporting/maintaining them, in order to imprison 100
>million people?

You don't seem to have a good grasp on the term "deter". You don't have
to lock them all up. You only have to lock up the few that try to break
the law.


>terrorist criminals. Oh, you say you want to hold them for life without a
>trial?

No, I never said without trial.

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From: Ken Smith on
In article <4525651A.5E36C356(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>> So how many prisons will we need to build, and what fraction of the GDP will
>> go into staffing/supporting/maintaining them, in order to imprison 100
>> million people?
>
>That would most likely sap the entire GDP of the USA.

No, not since it doesn't have to happen. I only spoke of the fear of life
in prison being a deterent. If a crime is detered, it doesn't happen and
the jail isn't needed.

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From: Ken Smith on
In article <4oki2pFf53ldU1(a)individual.net>,
Robert Latest <boblatest(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.design.]
>On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 13:52:07 +0000 (UTC),
> Ken Smith <kensmith(a)green.rahul.net> wrote
> in Msg. <eg32m7$okg$4(a)blue.rahul.net>
>>>A surprisingly small number of Islamic extremists are actually willing to
>>>die for their cause you know?
>>
>> Their belief system encourages it with promices of virgins etc.
>
>The warped belief system of the deluded extremists does, yes.
>Islam itself doesn't.

The "their" in my post refers to those who would commit the terrorist acts
not Islam at large. Eric Robert Rudolph would be a non-islamic version of
the same sort of belief system.



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