From: jmfbahciv on
In article <6ruVg.13907$7I1.7585(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
<lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>news:eg5el9$8qk_011(a)s831.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>> In article <452634AB.3341D603(a)hotmail.com>,
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> So much for mess prevention. So how many people does Bin Laden
>>>> have to kill before you deal with this problem? 300,000?
>>>> 3,000,000? 300,000,000? A billion?
>>>
>>>What makes you think any of the above are even remotely possible ?
>>
>> They
>> were brought in a culture that admires killing; I wasn't.
>
>Again, evidence to justify this assumption?

You have got to be kidding.

> All the Muslims I know are very
>much peace-loving people. Certainly much more so than any of the "kill 'em
>all" Americans I see on this group.

I haven't seen anybody (who is rational) demand that all Muslims
be killed. I have seen extrapolations about what will have to
be done if no mess prvention is done now.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <4526BF7C.6F4F23DC(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> So much for mess prevention. So how many people does Bin Laden
>> >>> have to kill before you deal with this problem? 300,000?
>> >>> 3,000,000? 300,000,000? A billion?
>> >>
>> >>What makes you think any of the above are even remotely possible ?
>> >
>> > They were brought in a culture that admires killing; I wasn't.
>>
>> Again, evidence to justify this assumption? All the Muslims I know are
very
>> much peace-loving people. Certainly much more so than any of the "kill 'em
>> all" Americans I see on this group.
>
>Ironic isn't it ?

Not at all. Your posts about no evidence is beyond belief.

/BAH
From: T Wake on

<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
news:eg7t54$8qk_003(a)s968.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
> In article <zuWdnToy_6qB6rvYRVnytA(a)pipex.net>,
> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:eg5e55$8qk_007(a)s831.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>> In article <452633ED.B02A967A(a)hotmail.com>,
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> another possibility is
>>>>> >> the goal is to cede to these extremists
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Are you really that monumentally stupid ?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Listening to their greivances isn't 'ceding' btw.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arafat used this tactic. He kept people at the table talking
>>>>> about peace to give his side time to accumulate weapons. He
>>>>> even got all these rich countries to fund his efforts.
>>>>
>>>>You're suggesting that because one person did this then we must never
>>>>again listen ? That's a very blinkered view indeed.
>>>
>>> It is a tactic that worked.
>>
>>Is it? Has Israel ceased to exist now?
>
> Those people have not acquired an instant gratification addiction.
> They think in terms of decades and centuries.

So sying it "worked" is inappropriate, "working" is as much as you can
assume. Even then it is tenuous as the working / not working argument has
equal support.

> Arafat got billions
> of dollars by talking peace while actually doing the opposite.
>>
>>> Don't you think others will try
>>> the same thing if it succeeds in fooling all of the Democrats
>>> all of the time?
>>
>>Logical fallacy.
>
> Apparently.
>>
>>>>You can't change attitudes with bullets.
>>>
>>> My attitude changed. And the trigger was two little airplane
>>> missles.
>>>
>>
>>Yet, you think doing the same to the other side will change their attitude
>>in a different manner? Ok, that makes sense.
>
> Not little missles. Clinton lobbed a couple of little missles and
> it didn't stop them. These people do not care who nor how many
> die. It is their stated goal to kill millions.

Who is this they of which you speak?


From: jmfbahciv on
In article <P6-dnSajh_Dt4LvYnZ2dnUVZ8qudnZ2d(a)pipex.net>,
"T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>news:eg5el9$8qk_011(a)s831.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>> In article <452634AB.3341D603(a)hotmail.com>,
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >That said, you are nitpicking in the same manner. More than ten times
>>>> >as
>>>> >many people die every year as died as a result of the 11 Sep 01 attack.
>> That
>>>> >is TEN attacks of that scale (and that was a large scale attack by
>> anyone's
>>>> >standards) every single year. Year in, year out and accepted as a
>>>> >normal
>>>> >risk in life.
>>>> >
>>>> >Amazing really.
>>>>
>>>> So much for mess prevention. So how many people does Bin Laden
>>>> have to kill before you deal with this problem? 300,000?
>>>> 3,000,000? 300,000,000? A billion?
>>>
>>>What makes you think any of the above are even remotely possible ?
>>
>> Because I can think of one that will kill a billion in less
>> than 1/2 year. If I can think it, they certainly can. They
>> were brought in a culture that admires killing; I wasn't.
>
>I can think about space aliens invading and making everyone die their hair
>red. Doesn't mean it is going to happen.
>
>You can deal with things you _think_ will happen or deal with things which
>are happening.
>
>I know which makes more sense to me.

I understand what makes more sense to you. I was brought up to
take action if I can see that a big mess is about to be made
if nothing is done.

I still think this is a difference between males and females.

/BAH

From: jmfbahciv on
In article <eg5tpm$70s$13(a)leto.cc.emory.edu>,
lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>In article <eg57l7$8ss_011(a)s831.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>In article <P4Kdnb9ApIGR47jYRVnyrw(a)pipex.net>,
>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
>>>news:qkrai2hvpp43t4lpu1ttca9tpq8ueb94qr(a)4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:03:17 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Which one would that be, the dangers of driving on the nation's highways?
>>>>>That's at least 3 orders of magnitude greater of a real threat to every
>>>>>person in the country than is terrorism.
>>>>
>>>> 3000 people died at the WTC. Three orders of magnitude from that is 3
>>>> million. We kill about 40K people a year in car accidents.
>>>>
>>>
>>>3000 people (not all of whom were US citizens) have been killed by Islamic
>>>terrorist attacks on the Mainland US in (shall we say 80 years). How many
>>>have died in car accidents in that time?
>>>
>>>That said, you are nitpicking in the same manner. More than ten times as
>>>many people die every year as died as a result of the 11 Sep 01 attack.
That
>>>is TEN attacks of that scale (and that was a large scale attack by anyone's
>>>standards) every single year. Year in, year out and accepted as a normal
>>>risk in life.
>>>
>>>Amazing really.
>>
>>So much for mess prevention. So how many people does Bin Laden
>>have to kill before you deal with this problem? 300,000?
>>3,000,000? 300,000,000? A billion?
>>
>
>So why aren't we devoting all our resources to getting him?

Because this intent to destroy all traces of Western civilization
is not isolated to one human being.

/BAH