From: Eeyore on


Jonathan Kirwan wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >JoeBloe wrote:
> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us:
> >> >JoeBloe wrote:
> >> >>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us:
> >> >>
> >> >> >More 'Christian' propaganda you willingly lapped up ?
> >> >>
> >> >> You're an idiot. Now that you have been pegged, and proven to be a
> >> >> US hater, you try to switch it to Christian hater.
> >> >
> >> >I respect ppl's right to practice religion. I'm offended by any religion
> >> >that inspires ignorance though lies whether that be Christian, Moslem or
> >> >other.
> >>
> >> All of Islam (read the moslems) believe that all others that are not
> >> moslem are "infidels" and that killing them is not, nor should not be
> >> a crime.
> >>
> >> I have a problem with that. Do you not have a problem with that?
> >
> >If it was true I would have a problem with it. It's simply not true though.
> >Do you really believe that nonsense ?
> >
> >Graham
>
> Sometimes I don't think Europeans understand the religious atmosphere
> here in the US and probably no imagination for the extreme reaches of
> it or how it actually influences politics here. I have a hard time,
> too, so here is a page that paints one of the extreme but important
> influences:
>
> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/12/105122/66
>
> In the latter part of it you will see how "thinking" is blocked and
> dismantled.
>
> Imagine living in the middle of this. I do.

It's insane. It's gobbledegook.

I can't even relate to this. It's like a bad dream.

Graham

From: Jonathan Kirwan on
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:09:39 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan
<jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:26:55 +0100, Eeyore
><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>JoeBloe wrote:
>>
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us:
>>> >JoeBloe wrote:
>>> >>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us:
>>> >>
>>> >> >More 'Christian' propaganda you willingly lapped up ?
>>> >>
>>> >> You're an idiot. Now that you have been pegged, and proven to be a
>>> >> US hater, you try to switch it to Christian hater.
>>> >
>>> >I respect ppl's right to practice religion. I'm offended by any religion
>>> >that inspires ignorance though lies whether that be Christian, Moslem or
>>> >other.
>>>
>>> All of Islam (read the moslems) believe that all others that are not
>>> moslem are "infidels" and that killing them is not, nor should not be
>>> a crime.
>>>
>>> I have a problem with that. Do you not have a problem with that?
>>
>>If it was true I would have a problem with it. It's simply not true though.
>>Do you really believe that nonsense ?
>>
>>Graham
>
>Sometimes I don't think Europeans understand the religious atmosphere
>here in the US and probably no imagination for the extreme reaches of
>it or how it actually influences politics here. I have a hard time,
>too, so here is a page that paints one of the extreme but important
>influences:
>
> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/12/105122/66
>
>In the latter part of it you will see how "thinking" is blocked and
>dismantled.
>
>Imagine living in the middle of this. I do.
>
>Jon

Oh, my. The Europeans _do_ have this in their midst:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061014/sc_afp/polandeducationsciencereligion_061014145504

Best of luck to you,
Jon
From: Eeyore on


JoeBloe wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:45:12 +0100, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us:
>
> >The US withdrew for Vietnam as the 'reds' came rolling in to Saigon. Is
> >that losing or what ?
>
> We were held back from responding, if you'll remember, dipshit, as
> that would have caused "an escalation". I am surprised that you
> always forget that little detail (no I am not).

No. Wrong again !

Graham

From: Jonathan Kirwan on
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:40:48 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>Jonathan Kirwan wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:03:54 +0100, "T Wake"
>> <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>>
>> ><snip>
>> >> Originally, to defend Europe, Japan, Korea, Taiwan. I think it's time
>> >> to pull out of the European bases and let them pay for their own
>> >> defense, now that they don't need much of it.
>> >
>> >I agree. I cant see the US military being too happy at it. Forward staging
>> >bases are pretty useful.
>>
>> Europeans are already beginning to work out the details of a European,
>> as opposed to individual country, military with soldiers who swear
>> allegiance to the united countries and not the country they come from.
>> Yes?
>>
>> With the US behaving the way it is, I'd wonder if the Europeans would
>> bite at the chance to field an independent force sufficiently funded
>> to balance US behavior and provide the necessary 'encouragements' so
>> the US negotiates no longer as an unopposed bully.
>
>It's in 'nascent' form still.
>
>The EDF AIUI.

Is there a growing interest to go beyond that stage?

Jon
From: Eeyore on


JoeBloe wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us:
>
> >We were *allies*. It wasn't the USA just helping the UK. And you were late.
>
> You're an idiot. We provided your war machine for years before we
> provided men.

We bought your old wrecks you mean.

Graham