From: JoeBloe on
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:00:18 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan
<jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> Gave us:

> so
>the US negotiates no longer as an unopposed bully.


We do not, nor have we ever. Do try to get a clue.
From: Jamie on
JoeBloe wrote:

> On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:24:36 -0700, Jamie
> <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_(a)charter.net> Gave us:
>
> snip
>
> You should probably think about setting your PC clock to the correct
> time.
yeah, but i like to make sure i am never late! :)


--
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From: John Larkin on
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:00:18 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan
<jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:03:54 +0100, "T Wake"
><usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote:
>
>><snip>
>>> Originally, to defend Europe, Japan, Korea, Taiwan. I think it's time
>>> to pull out of the European bases and let them pay for their own
>>> defense, now that they don't need much of it.
>>
>>I agree. I cant see the US military being too happy at it. Forward staging
>>bases are pretty useful.
>
>Europeans are already beginning to work out the details of a European,
>as opposed to individual country, military with soldiers who swear
>allegiance to the united countries and not the country they come from.
>Yes?
>
>With the US behaving the way it is, I'd wonder if the Europeans would
>bite at the chance to field an independent force sufficiently funded
>to balance US behavior and provide the necessary 'encouragements' so
>the US negotiates no longer as an unopposed bully.

But if it takes a multi-country concensus to act, they won't be
fielded in time to do much useful. You can't "balance US behavior" if
it takes a year of debating before deployment.

John

From: John Larkin on
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 01:09:39 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan
<jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:26:55 +0100, Eeyore
><rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>JoeBloe wrote:
>>
>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us:
>>> >JoeBloe wrote:
>>> >>Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us:
>>> >>
>>> >> >More 'Christian' propaganda you willingly lapped up ?
>>> >>
>>> >> You're an idiot. Now that you have been pegged, and proven to be a
>>> >> US hater, you try to switch it to Christian hater.
>>> >
>>> >I respect ppl's right to practice religion. I'm offended by any religion
>>> >that inspires ignorance though lies whether that be Christian, Moslem or
>>> >other.
>>>
>>> All of Islam (read the moslems) believe that all others that are not
>>> moslem are "infidels" and that killing them is not, nor should not be
>>> a crime.
>>>
>>> I have a problem with that. Do you not have a problem with that?
>>
>>If it was true I would have a problem with it. It's simply not true though.
>>Do you really believe that nonsense ?
>>
>>Graham
>
>Sometimes I don't think Europeans understand the religious atmosphere
>here in the US and probably no imagination for the extreme reaches of
>it or how it actually influences politics here. I have a hard time,
>too, so here is a page that paints one of the extreme but important
>influences:
>
> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/10/12/105122/66
>
>In the latter part of it you will see how "thinking" is blocked and
>dismantled.

The Daily Kos is hardly a bastion of objective thinking either.

>
>Imagine living in the middle of this. I do.

Where do you live? I haven't encountered much religious extremism in
the US, at least nothing threatening. Mormons and Masons and
born-agains tend to be enthusiastic, but so are vegans and baseball
fans. Boring, mostly.

John

From: lucasea on

"JoeBloe" <joebloe(a)thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:sfo5j29skq6i4epi3qslqradmqfnre8pm9(a)4ax.com...
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 00:45:12 +0100, Eeyore
> <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> Gave us:
>>JoeBloe wrote:
>>> They said the same thing about Vietnam. We responded, and now we
>>> have twits like you calling us losers.
>>
>>The US withdrew for Vietnam as the 'reds' came rolling in to Saigon. Is
>>that losing or what ?
>>
> We were held back from responding, if you'll remember, dipshit, as
> that would have caused "an escalation". I am surprised that you
> always forget that little detail (no I am not).

So now we win wars by playing semantic games? Oh, yeah, that would explain
"Mission Accomplished".

I'll ask you again, do you *ever* think for yourself?

Eric Lucas