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From: lucasea on 1 Nov 2006 11:06 "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote in message news:1162393373.073039.297600(a)b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> In article <4qnbicFo0aioU1(a)individual.net>, > [....] >> >China is massively investing in coal liquefaction plants. >> >> When I was there in the 80s, their economy was based >> on all coal. ARe they working on development autos that >> can run on coal tar? > > No, they are working on making liquid fuel for cars out of coal. They > aren't changing the cars. They are changing the coal. Among other things, she needs to learn a helluva lot more about technology before she makes assumptions based on her extreme lack of understanding. BAH--advice: Google SASOL. Eric Lucas
From: unsettled on 1 Nov 2006 13:22 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <e6fd$4547955c$49ecf26$7971(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>Lloyd Parker wrote: >> >>>In article <ee2c$454690aa$4fe716b$704(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, >>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Lloyd Parker wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>In article <ei4s7g$8qk_001(a)s787.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>, >>>>> jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>In article <1162139745.736188.86580(a)h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>"MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>In article <1161875197.735056.288140(a)m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>>> "MooseFET" <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>><snip delusional expectations that Democrats never fulfilled> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>The latest edict is forcing everybody to have >>>>>>>>medical insurance; if you don't the rumor is that income >>>>>>>>tax penalties will be imposed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The state pays for hospitals etc for those who can't pay. They don't >>>>>>>want those who can't pay dieing in the streets so they have to fund >>>>>>>their medical needs. There are some people who can afford to pay for >>>>>>>their own health care who choose to spunge off the system. To >>>>>>>discourage this, they are making those who can affort to have >>>>>>>insurance, but refuse to get it, pay a little extra towards the care of >>>>>>>those who can't afford it. It is a completely rational thing to do if >>>>>>>you have the state paying for those who can't. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If you don't do this you must either cut off the medical care to the >>>>>>>poor or spread the cost of it evenly between the responsible and >>>>>>>irresponsible. Neither of these options is better than the one taken. >>>>>> >>>>>>Massachusetts implemented this with car insurance. It is a mess >>>>>>and people are trying to get rid of it. The fact that the Democrats >>>>>>have implemented a similar structure for medical insurance (this >>>>>>is NOT medical care) bodes ill for all, especially those who >>>>>>cannot pay. The new thing that these idiots have implemented is >>>>>>tying the payments to income taxes. They did this with sales >>>>>>tax and nobody, absolutely nobody, has complained. Think about >>>>>>a sales tax which is tied to your income level. I suspect, since >>>>>>nobody bitched, these Democrats have done the same thing with >>>>>>medical insurance. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Europe uses a centralized payment for medical care, as do Canada and > > Japan. > >>> >>> >>> >>>>>They cover everybody and spend less. >>>> >>>>How long a wait is there for a hip replacement? >>>> >>>>How long here in the US? >>>> >>> >>> >>>Depends. Do you have insurance? What does it cover? >>> >>> >>> >>>>Canadians regularly come to the US and pay for surgery >>>>100% out of pocket because the waiting period is too >>>>long. Perhaps not in huge numbers, but enough to be >>>>noticeable. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>No they don't. >> >>Excuse me, I'm not talking through my hat on this one. >> >> >>>Most Canadians, in survey after survey, are satisfied with >>>their health insurance. >> >>Take note of the word "most." That's not 100%. > > > Notice that he also said insurance, not treatment. > > >>Among >>those others who are not satisfied are some who >>regularly come to the US for medical procedures. > > > The ones I know about were people who had cancer. The most recent one I met was a 70 year old farmer who needed a hip replacement. They scheduled him 18 months later. He said heck no, that's 2 harvests h'd have to hire people for, and at his age 18 months with the poor quality of life, hobbling around in pain, was unacceptable. So he came to the US. 3/4 of the cost (100% out of pocket) was covered by not having to hire people for 2 harvests. He thought overall it was a very good deal.
From: unsettled on 1 Nov 2006 13:26 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <8594c$45468e46$4fe716b$704(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >>>In article <Lga1h.2227$s6.11(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, >>> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message >>>>news:cb1d3$45452d8a$4fe72af$23817(a)DIALUPUSA.NET... >>>> >>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>snip >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Nothing about annihilation of western civilization is amusing. >>>>>>This is serious business and it will take another three massive >>>>>>killings before the insane politicians are thrown out and >>>>>>ones who are willing to deal with problem constructively are >>>>>>put back in power. >>>>> >>>>>Those who persist in denying the announced and obvious >>>>>end up driving the defensive system towards an eventual >>>>>dictatorial authority. >>>>> >>>>>Hitler's Mein Kampf was not a secret. The agenda was >>>>>mapped out in advance. Militant Islam has been advocating >>>>>against the west for decades. Despite the protestations >>>>>of some, it is a religion spread by violence and has been >>>> >>>>>from the day that Mohammed decided he was heading up a >>>> >>>>>new religion. >>>>> >>>>>If we look at British conduct in the face of Hitler's >>>>>growing menace, we see the same sorts of appeasement >>>>>as is being promoted in these related threads. In the >>>>>case of Britain, they eventually put Churchill in >>>>>charge. He was one of those "last choice" sorts of >>>>>men that the appeasers disdained. They historically >>>>>worked hard to derail him but there came a moment >>>>>of truth when they were finally unable to deny the >>>>>realities facing them any longer, and needed a >>>>>strong man to drive them towards victory. By that >>>>>time they were in trouble, so America was pulled >>>>>into the fray, with its own dictator style president >>>>>at the helm replaced eventually (after death) by a >>>>>sleeper sort of a strong man who didn't hesitate to >>>>>use the atomic bomb to end the Pacific war. >>>>> >>>>>How many today would have the nerve to actually use a >>>>>nuclear weapon? Certainly none of the appeasers here >>>>>want that to happen, but by their actions they're >>>>>driving the system towards the point where other >>>>>options will cease to exist. >>>>> >>>>>Unfortunately, with the sorts of "good human beings" >>>>>we're encountering in this newsgroup, we'll probably >>>>>evenually get to the point where we'll have to use >>>>>our own final solution to the problem by using nukes. >>>>> >>>>>History has taught us that it is a much smaller mess >>>>>if you take care of business and protect yourself >>>>>early in the game, rather than late. Keep on ignoring >>>>>all of history folks. I'll be investing in uranium >>>>>futures. >>>> >>>>BAH--this is a new low for you. Self-congratulation and attacking other >>>>posters by using another screen name. >>> >>> >>>Huh? I can't write that well. You will assume any posture just >>>to avoid the facts of what is really going on. I don't know >>>how to deal with this kind of insanity. >> >>By making this sort of accuation he's avoiding >>the issues. He didn't have a single point to >>make about the content of the post. And if >>one considers the content of his posting, it >>actually has nothing at all to do with what's >>above. >> >>If anyone deserves to be ignored, he does. > > > That's not a viable choice. When the US gets its Democrat for > President, s/he/it will think, talk and act like Eric portrays > in this discussion. That's the only reason I've stayed here so > long. You mean like Kerry and his latest debacle?
From: unsettled on 1 Nov 2006 13:31 jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <b0b87$454896c9$4fe760b$14253(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: > >>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >> >> >>>In article <4546F871.E7AD0EB5(a)hotmail.com>, >>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>unsettled wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Also compare the availability of goods and services in Europe >>>>>and other places in the world to ours. >>>> >>>>What !!!! >>>> >>>>Are you being funny ? >>> >>> >>>No, he's not. There are a lot of Europeans who come to the US >>>to shop. >> >>There have been many flights bringing Europeans to shop at >>the Mall of America in Minnesota. Straight in, shop all day, >>get back on the plane the same day and go back. > > > I hadn't heard that one. I suspect it would be the place to > go with everything in the same building. I don't understand > how people can do that. I hate shopping..except in my local > hardware and lumber store and the book store. I'll browse in > those stores. They used to fly into Milwaukee and be bussed to Gurnee Mills just across the border in Illinois. They switched to Mall of America because not only is it bigger, but the airport is literally right next door.
From: Jonathan Kirwan on 1 Nov 2006 14:21
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:33:26 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: ><snip> >>>You can't keep attributions straight, neither can you keep >>>the people you're talking to straight. I never refused to >>>read the article. All your arguments are similarly confused. >> >> Saddam killed well over a million. > >Evidence, please. > >Eric Lucas It's just interesting that the argument is about who is worse, Saddam or Bush. Maybe we can compare between Hitler and Bush, too? Note: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=MOR20061029&articleId=3618 Jon |