From: David Bostwick on
In article <5oshk217oi02qvuhp0g8vmbi3turugqrjg(a)4ax.com>, Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:33:26 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>><snip>
>>>>You can't keep attributions straight, neither can you keep
>>>>the people you're talking to straight. I never refused to
>>>>read the article. All your arguments are similarly confused.
>>>
>>> Saddam killed well over a million.
>>
>>Evidence, please.
>>
>>Eric Lucas
>
>It's just interesting that the argument is about who is worse, Saddam
>or Bush. Maybe we can compare between Hitler and Bush, too?
>
>Note:
>http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=MOR20061029&art
>icleId=3618
>
>Jon

Godwin alert.
From: Jonathan Kirwan on
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 21:16:34 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
<f.bemelmanq(a)xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:

><snip>
>But having said that, what did you think after reading the material
>that Jon pointed us to?

Soon after this administration took office, and after seeing some of
the old war horses (Poindexter and Negroponte, to name just two) I'd
seen as true felons running amok in the Reagan Administration (who
were unscrupulous mobsters of the highest degree) and stealing like
crazy and involving themselves deeply into the illicit drug trade in
the US, having been reinstalled into this administration's key
positions, I mentioned to my wife,

"Cheney is going to diligently work each and every detailed issue he
can, pressing those he can press each morning, and going on to the
next one when he finds one he cannot press for a moment. But he will
be relentless and undistracted. I'm somewhat worried that this
administration [I already knew Bush himself to be a minor, bit player]
will 'shoot the moon."

This is a reference to something one does in a card game called
"Hearts," where someone goes for broke and tries to take all the
points.

Regardless, I do also see this as just another of myriad steps of a
larger plan of Cheney's. He's very, very good at plugging away at
every place where there is a weakness to be seized upon and to also
not worry much about those he cannot do much about for the moment or
those where he gets a reversal of sorts. He is constantly surveying
and pushing where he can. Always and ever. Like a bulldozer.

I still worry that we may find ourselves, as mere citizens, caught
unawares and unprepared.

Jon
From: Jonathan Kirwan on
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 21:41:24 GMT, david.bostwick(a)chemistry.gatech.edu
(David Bostwick) wrote:

>>But having said that, what did you think after reading the material
>>that Jon pointed us to?
>
>The link is broken or I don't have the permission.

It's not broken and apparently others can reach it. Try this link:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/print.html?path=HL0610/S00490.htm

Jon
From: Jonathan Kirwan on
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:28:49 GMT, david.bostwick(a)chemistry.gatech.edu
(David Bostwick) wrote:

>In article <5oshk217oi02qvuhp0g8vmbi3turugqrjg(a)4ax.com>, Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan(a)easystreet.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 15:33:26 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>><snip>
>>>>>You can't keep attributions straight, neither can you keep
>>>>>the people you're talking to straight. I never refused to
>>>>>read the article. All your arguments are similarly confused.
>>>>
>>>> Saddam killed well over a million.
>>>
>>>Evidence, please.
>>>
>>>Eric Lucas
>>
>>It's just interesting that the argument is about who is worse, Saddam
>>or Bush. Maybe we can compare between Hitler and Bush, too?
>>
>>Note:
>>http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=MOR20061029&art
>>icleId=3618
>>
>>Jon
>
>Godwin alert.

Obviously, you cannot tell when my tongue is in my cheek. You should
lighten up a bit.

Jon
From: Eeyore on


jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> lparker(a)emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:
>
> >Clinton also never received a briefing that bin Laden was (1) "determined to
> >strike inside the US" and (2) might crash airplanes into buildings. Bush got
> >both.
>
> Why do you keep insisting that the only appropriate method of
> ensuring national security is to wait until something happens and
> then be in react mode?

He isn't !


> That is one sure way to get destroyed.

That's Bush's way. See 9/11 !

Graham