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From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 13:14 T Wake wrote: > Personally I think without 11 Sept 2001, the situation in NI would still be > hostile. The timescale doesn't fit with that idea. Graham
From: T Wake on 3 Oct 2006 13:15 <mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message news:DkfUg.31$45.83(a)news.uchicago.edu... > In article <efr907$sb7$5(a)blue.rahul.net>, kensmith(a)green.rahul.net (Ken > Smith) writes: >>In article <XxYTg.5$45.149(a)news.uchicago.edu>, >> <mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote: >>[....] >>>Criminals are people who are motivated by self interest and can be >>>deterred by sufficiently reducing the chance of profit. >> >>No, criminals are people who commit crimes. Their have been some who have >>done so for nonprofit and in a few cases nonselfish reasons. They are >>still none the less criminals. Consider the example of someone who gives >>LSD to minors because it "expands their mind". Such a person is still a >>criminal. >> >>> And, they're >>>parasites on the society, not trying to destroy it, just milk it. >> >>They may in many cases really be trying to destroy it. Simply "milking >>it" may not be their aim at all. They may see themselves as trying to >>reform it or improve it. >> >> >>> The >>>Islamic terrorists aim at destruction of the western society and >>>you're not going to deter them because there is no deterring people >>>who already decided that they don't care whether they live or die. >> >>Actually that is not true. Deterring people is about placing a treat >>against what they value. You may be able to deter many of them with the >>threat that if there is another attack, we will nuke Meca. >> > This, in fact, may work. We didn't get to this stage yet, but we may. > But this level of deterrence is in the province of war, not police > action. > >>They also very likely would fear being held in prison for life. >> > This may be so but the technique of carrying poison on yourself at all > times, so as to prevent the possibility of being taken alive is known > for a long time. BTW, the fact that their leaders didn't adapt it yet > is encouraging, in a way. A surprisingly small number of Islamic extremists are actually willing to die for their cause you know?
From: T Wake on 3 Oct 2006 13:19 <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:NdfUg.992$NE6.169(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.com... > > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message > news:YM6dnaSDq6ef-bzYRVnyug(a)pipex.net... >> >> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:6rbUg.7744$GR.3438(a)newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > >> I agree. The West has initiated this "war" on the basis we are >> good/free/democratic etc and "they" aren't. Throwing away the rule book >> so we can get "them" is not a step in the right direction. There is a >> reason why police have to follow the law to apprehend criminals. > > Side issue, but this has always been a pet peeve of mine. The consequence > of the police not following the law in apprehending criminals has only > ever been that they are have to release the alleged criminal. In other > words, the police can trample people's (anybody's, not just criminals') > rights at will, and the worst that will happen is the apprehendee is > released, to commit more crime if they were the criminal in the first > place. How is that good for society? In pathological cases, it leads to > innocent people having their rights trampled, and guilty people walking > free. Shouldn't the police be subject to criminal penalties when they > violate the law to apprehend a criminal? > When I become God, they will be subject to the rule of law :-) > > >> Even waiting three years would have worked wonders. > > It's not clear to me it would *ever* have been a good idea. I now pray > that Rice et al don't stir the pot too much with Iran. Not stiring the pot will go against all the US stated foreign policy as it is actually a regime which overtly sponsors terrorism. (PIJ etc) Add in North Korea and the US is going to be busy for some time. > The Middle Eastern scholars I've heard and read are now saying that > Ahmadinejad has so little popular support that he will be ousted within a > short time, and that a peaceful, secular regime will in all likelihood > succeed him. If we stick our noses in there, we could just give him > enough support among Iranians to stick around long enough to develop and > use nuclear weapons technology. > > >> :-) I want Special Forces assistance in my War Against Grass this Sunday. > > Fortunately, mine seems to have largely stopped to grow for this year. > > I hear Napalm works well for that. Does Dow still sell it? ;^) That would be good.... Mine grows constantly. The constant rain doesn't help either..
From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 13:22 T Wake wrote: > The same reason unthinking Muslims support groups considered terrorist by > the west. Is Hezbollah a terrorist organisation ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 13:25
T Wake wrote: > Not been to Moscow, most Former Soviet countries tend to be quite polite > though. Maybe the Russians took the breakdown worse than the rest... The Czechs and Slovaks are especially playful. The Poles are pretty friendly too. Graham |