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From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 13:02 T Wake wrote: > <mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message > > > If and when western extremists will start systematically blowing people up > > they'll have to be dealt with as well. > > Well, from 1968 - 2000 they did in the UK. It's interesting to note that the UK Gov't didn't respond by threatening all Irish ppl too. Or even by killing all the 'insurgents'. Graham
From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 13:06 Jamie wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > Jim Thompson wrote: > > > >>Since most (if not all) > >>Muslims won't criticize Jihad, in a war we will have to presume that > >>all Muslims are closet Islamic terrorists. > > > > You haven't a clue what Jihad really means. If you understood........... > > > > " Jihad, sometimes spelled Jahad, Jehad, Jihaad, Djehad or Cihad, (Arabic: > > ????? ?ih?d) is an Islamic term, from the Arabic root ?hd ("to exert > > utmost effort, to strive, struggle"), which connotes a wide range of > > meanings: anything from an inward spiritual struggle to attain perfect > > faith to a political or military struggle " > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad > > > > Graham > > is that like the colorful metaphors that get thrown in every other line > by the average educated hard working american that really means > absolutely nothing other than taking up extra space in the text and > getting in the way? at least it adds flavor to the mix what the hell > does Jihad do ? It means what it says. What's a drugs Czar for example ? Are all crusades violent ? Graham
From: T Wake on 3 Oct 2006 13:06 "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:v673i2dusng3t5a82qt9hm7n8ve5p4t7ua(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:59:42 +0100, "T Wake" > <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: > >> >>"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message >>news:3kh2i2p1qoa888afm2l1ksq3j2qcvcfvrl(a)4ax.com... >>> --- >>> So what? With world domonation as its goal, one would expect it >>> would strike world-wide, as the opportunity arose. >> >> >>Whose goal? "It" isn't really appropriate to define the long term aims of >>a >>disparate group of organisations. Are "they" trying to dominate the world >>or >>destroy western society or convert every one or... > > --- > "It" being radical Islam, Radical Islam can't be described as having a "single unified goal." Some radical Islamic groups which operate as Terrorist organisations in Asia have no interest in Global conversion. > the goal, in my opinion, would be to > convert everyone to Islam and have them be subject to control by > Muslim jurists, the goal being total world domination by Islam. > > Refusal to convert would result in death. Ok. This is just your opinion though. An equally valid opinion would be to say the US has global world domination as it's goal. It is after all only an opinion.
From: T Wake on 3 Oct 2006 13:08 "Gordon" <gordonlr(a)DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message news:p4b3i2d3urlnfo43jikkt0cbqts5djstrt(a)4ax.com... > > Graham, what John said is straight out of their Koran. Repeated > in many Surah, Ayah passages. For example; > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Surah 47, Ayah 4 When ye encounter the infidels, strike of their > heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them, and of the > rest make fast the fetters. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For the record, an infidel is anyone who is not a recognized > Muslim in good standing. A Muslim who turns away from the Muslim > religion is an infidel. Any person who belongs to and > acknowledges belonging to any other religion is an infidel. > It is interesting that until recent times, Islamic countries / empires had the greatest tolerance for Non-believers. Quoting the Koran as an example of what all Muslims adhere to is somewhat disingenuous.
From: John Larkin on 3 Oct 2006 13:09
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:58:41 +0100, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:21:16 +0100, Eeyore wrote: >> >John Larkin wrote: >> >> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:12:32 +0100, Eeyore wrote: >> >> >> >" he asks whether Muslims will be the victims of the next pogroms " >> >> > >> >> >See my post on this point. >> >> > >> >> >That's why I laugh when American try lecturing us about being blind to the danger >> >> >from Islam. Do you guys seriously think we'd ever let them get the upper hand ? >> >> > >> >> >Graham >> >> >> >> Upper hand? What does Europe plan to do about the exponents of >> >> population growth, negative for the traditional population and >> >> positive for Islamic immigrants? >> > >> >So, you're worried about a hypothetical something in maybe 1000 yrs ? >> > >> >Has it ever ocurred to you that most European Muslims don't want to live like backward >> >tribesppl ? >> > >> >Graham >> >> Has it occurred to you that there are different perspectives on >> "backward"? No, I guess not. > >Has it occurred to you to ask any Muslims ? > >Graham There's one two doors down from me at this instant, and I talk to him about stuff like this all the time. So, "yes." John |