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From: lucasea on 3 Oct 2006 13:29 "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote in message news:MMqdnSZ0oLqTC7_YRVnyiA(a)pipex.net... > > Personally I think without 11 Sept 2001, the situation in NI would still > be hostile. Since the Americans had to institute a "War on Terror" it > forced the hard liners to re-invent themselves. Not to mention the > majority of the IRA training and equipment came from Islamic terrorist > organisations..... (A significant minority came direct from the US....) Interesting connection--and it now starts to be a little clearer why the UK has been the one supporter that has stood by the US since 9/11. By the way, I had been unaware of the connections between Middle Eastern terrorists and NI, but I guess it doesn't surprise me. So, taken to its logical conclusion, you're saying that the only way this unpleasantness in the Middle East will end is if some other group of extremists starts making trouble somewhere else in the world? Oh, great. But this support the notion that the current Middle East set-to is related to the collapse of the Soviet Union and the resulting vacuum of a global conflict to gel nations into cooperation. There is a humorous saying in the world of instrumentation: "He who has one watch always knows what time it is, he who has two watches never knows what time it is." As a similar maxim for global politics, how about: "A world with two superpowers is predictable and stable, a world with only one superpower is unpredictable and unstable." Eric Lucas
From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 13:32 John Larkin wrote: > On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:58:41 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:21:16 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >> >John Larkin wrote: > >> >> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:12:32 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >> > >> >> >" he asks whether Muslims will be the victims of the next pogroms " > >> >> > > >> >> >See my post on this point. > >> >> > > >> >> >That's why I laugh when American try lecturing us about being blind to the danger > >> >> >from Islam. Do you guys seriously think we'd ever let them get the upper hand ? > >> >> > > >> >> >Graham > >> >> > >> >> Upper hand? What does Europe plan to do about the exponents of > >> >> population growth, negative for the traditional population and > >> >> positive for Islamic immigrants? > >> > > >> >So, you're worried about a hypothetical something in maybe 1000 yrs ? > >> > > >> >Has it ever ocurred to you that most European Muslims don't want to live like backward > >> >tribesppl ? > >> > > >> >Graham > >> > >> Has it occurred to you that there are different perspectives on > >> "backward"? No, I guess not. > > > >Has it occurred to you to ask any Muslims ? > > > >Graham > > There's one two doors down from me at this instant, and I talk to him > about stuff like this all the time. > > So, "yes." I thought that might be the case. So what does he say ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 13:34 T Wake wrote: > "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message > >Dirk Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>Gordon wrote: > >>> On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 00:47:08 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > >>>> John Fields wrote: > >>>>> On Mon, 2 Oct 2006 19:59:42 +0100, "T Wake" wrote: > >>>>>> "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>> So what? With world domonation as its goal, one would expect it > >>>>>>> would strike world-wide, as the opportunity arose. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Whose goal? "It" isn't really appropriate to define the long term > >>>>>> aims of a > >>>>>> disparate group of organisations. Are "they" trying to dominate the > >>>>>> world or > >>>>>> destroy western society or convert every one or... > >>>>> --- > >>>>> "It" being radical Islam, the goal, in my opinion, would be to > >>>>> convert everyone to Islam and have them be subject to control by > >>>>> Muslim jurists, the goal being total world domination by Islam. > >>>>> > >>>>> Refusal to convert would result in death. > >>>> Do you often conjure up such idiotic ideas out of thin air ? > >>>> > >>>> Graham > >>>> > >>> Graham, what John said is straight out of their Koran. Repeated > >>> in many Surah, Ayah passages. For example; > >>> > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> Surah 47, Ayah 4 When ye encounter the infidels, strike of their > >>> heads till ye have made a great slaughter among them, and of the > >>> rest make fast the fetters. > >>> > >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> For the record, an infidel is anyone who is not a recognized > >>> Muslim in good standing. A Muslim who turns away from the Muslim > >>> religion is an infidel. Any person who belongs to and > >>> acknowledges belonging to any other religion is an infidel. > >>> > >>> Gordon > >> > >>Then how do you account for Iran having the second highest Jewish > >>population in the ME? According to your theory they should all be > >>Muslims or dead by now. > > > > --- > > They are "People of the Book" and deserve respect. > > As are Christians. Gordon did say "For the record, an infidel is anyone who > is not a recognized Muslim in good standing." > > This implies that Jews, Christians, Hindus etc are all subject to the > beheading. According to whom ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 13:35 T Wake wrote: > <mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote > > > 1) See my replies to Graham. > > 2) All of them. > > I assume the US are going to Occupy Belfast to stomp out the RIRA threat > then? Maybe they'd have threatened to nuke Dublin ? Graham
From: Eeyore on 3 Oct 2006 13:37
T Wake wrote: > <mmeron(a)cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message.. > > > This may be so but the technique of carrying poison on yourself at all > > times, so as to prevent the possibility of being taken alive is known > > for a long time. BTW, the fact that their leaders didn't adapt it yet > > is encouraging, in a way. > > A surprisingly small number of Islamic extremists are actually willing to > die for their cause you know? I beleive that Islam takes the same view about suicide as the Christian Church actually. Graham |