From: jmfbahciv on 4 Nov 2006 08:28 In article <454B962A.4DD0FD81(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >T Wake wrote: > >> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >> >> > Oh, I've heard of people going to Califoria (from Asia) and >> > Boston and NYC from Europe to buy stuff. I had not realized >> > that these shoppers had discovered that Mall. >> >> Wow. I am really, honestly, amazed by this. >> >> I can not speak for all people. I can not speak for all Europeans. I can't >> even speak for all Brits. However, most people I know would not fly to the >> US simply to shop. When they do go to the US on holiday (for example, I have >> relatives in New York and often go to Florida on holiday) they will shop for >> things. >> >> When people I know go to [Insert European Destination Here] on Holiday, they >> will often shop for things as well. >> >> Isn't it strange. >> >> Also, we actually do have shopping malls here in Europe. >> >> What a wonderful world we live in. > >I believe there may even be shopping malls in China now too ! > >I wonder if BAH and unsettled still think the Chinese all go round still in Mao >style suits ? You were showing a little bit of thinking ability. And then you had to wipe this line across my TTY. /BAH
From: jmfbahciv on 4 Nov 2006 08:34 In article <t9lmk29qp6402rq9vdiuh88so14e4kt4uo(a)4ax.com>, Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP(a)interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: >On Fri, 03 Nov 06 14:00:54 GMT, the renowned jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > >>In article <454B3D79.250DEEA6(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> >The last thing I'd fancy after a long flight is shopping ! >>>> >> >>>> >> I observed this behaviour when we went to China. Our tour >>>> >> groups were upper middle class people. We arrived at the >>>> >> Great Wall and the shopaholics turned left to go into the >>>> >> store while we turned right to go on the Great Wall and walk >>>> >> a little bit of it. These people never saw the Great Wall. >>>> >> >>>> >> They went half-way around the world and didn't even bother to >>>> >> look at a remarkable feat of the human species. >>>> > >>>> >Americans ??? >>>> >>>> Not all were. I think this had more to do with people who had >>>> new money. It was certainly a lesson to me about people who >>>> don't know how work gets done. >>> >>>I can't imagine what goes through their minds. >> >>Oh, I can imagine. A good example is this thread. >> >>> >>> >>>> That part of the Wall was amazing. We climbed it and walked it. >>>> JMF has fear of heights. He wanted to go on (est. angle of >>>> some of walk was >45 degrees). I looked back and then had to >>>> look _down_. I figured I'd have to carry him back if we went any >>>> further. >>> >>>I'm glad you enjoyed it. >>> >>>My time on mainland China was really just involved with business in the >>Shenzhen >>>area. I'd like to see more though. >> >>I'm going to get up and look it up. I don't know where that >>area is. > >It's a commuter train (subway-style) ride from Hong Kong. Thank you. No wonder I didn't know the name and couldn't find it in my maps. >A SEZ just >on the other side of the boundary, but it's bigger than HK now (in >size and population). The city that was real interesting when we went in the 80s was Shanghai. I think they were the field test for China's flavor of capitalism. > >>>I do like Hong Kong big time though ! >> >>Hong Kong was a amazing when were there. I don't know how >>it has changed since China took it over, though. >> >>/BAH > >It's just about ten years now! As more companies go in directly, >they're losing a bit of the middleman and financial center/re status >to other Chinese cities, so their growth is nowwhere near as rapid as >the rest of China, but they are holding their own. Good. There was a potential for a huge mess there. > The shopping there >is nothing special, cheaper prices can be found in the US. REally? How about labor? Can you still buy stuff cheaper if the thingie involves labor? I'm thinking of custom-made suits and shoes. > Compared to >more socialist places such as the US and Europe and China their >taxation regime is remarkably favorable, particularly to the well-off. If you want your country to be successful and thrive, you have to be kind to your wealthy. /BAH
From: unsettled on 4 Nov 2006 08:38 Eeyore wrote: > > unsettled wrote: >>But then you're just a camel jockey, what would you know. > And you're an ignorant jerk. > Graham Finally! An admission.
From: unsettled on 4 Nov 2006 08:41 Eeyore wrote: > > unsettled wrote: > > >>Eeyore distorts as only a Muslim can: >> >>>unsettled wrote: >>> >>>>Eeyore wrote: >>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Have you already forgotten the reason for the Arab Embargo ? >>>>>> >>>>>>Yes. I don't remember all the details. >>>>> >>>>>It was because of western backing of Israel. Sound familiar ? Truth is that >>>>>Israel is the number one messmaker in the region. >>>> >>>>Now I know for sure you're a displaced camel jockey. >>> >>> >>>And I know for sure that you haven't the tiniest clue about history. >>> >>>" The 1973 oil crisis first began on October 17, 1973 when the Organization of >>>Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries (OAPEC), consisting of the Arab members of >>>OPEC plus Egypt and Syria, announced as a result of the ongoing Yom Kippur War, >>>that they would no longer ship petroleum to nations that had supported Israel in >>>its conflict with Syria and Egypt. This included the United States and its allies >>>in Western Europe. " >>> >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Oil_Embargo >>> >>>It's no secret what happened. >> >>It must be pathological stupidity with you. >> >>"The war began on the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur with a surprise joint >>attack by Egypt and Syria crossing the cease-fire lines in the Sinai and >>Golan Heights, respectively" >> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War >> >>So the arabs start another war, they lose, *again*, then >>in a fit of pique punish the US, and here some 30+ years >>later you're supporting the Arab posture? >> >>Pathological all right. You're a camel jockey all right! > > > Did I say anywhere that it was 'fair' or 'equitable' ? > > I'm simply pointing out the factual reasons for the 1973 oil embargo. > > Do you want to rewrite history ? No, I'd like for the likes of you to breathe, live in, and support the culture in which you live.
From: unsettled on 4 Nov 2006 08:46
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: > In article <I7I2h.500$Mw.369(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, > <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:eifeh1$8qk_004(a)s820.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >> >>>What counts with measuring the effectiveness of any social program >>>is the individual stories, not the cut and dried percentages >>>of service delivery counts. >> >>And yet you prefer to believe impersonal books when learning about what >>Islam is all about, instead of talking to actual Muslims. > > > What do you suggest? I'm reading about their history. Am I > supposed to wait until I can talk to those who are long dead > before I learn about the history of that area? Islam > did not keep history records other than who studied under whom. > > >>Your hypocrisy on >>this issue suggests that you don't intrinsically prefer one or the other >>(anecdotes or data), but rather in any given situation, you just pick and >>choose what you believe by how well it supports your assumptions and >>preconceived notions. Nice. > > > It's an odd behaviour where the very people who suffer a mental > aberrration claim that their opposites have the problem. Unfortunately it is common on usenet, not so much in realtime FtF. |