From: jmfbahciv on
In article <454B962A.4DD0FD81(a)hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>T Wake wrote:
>
>> <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> > Oh, I've heard of people going to Califoria (from Asia) and
>> > Boston and NYC from Europe to buy stuff. I had not realized
>> > that these shoppers had discovered that Mall.
>>
>> Wow. I am really, honestly, amazed by this.
>>
>> I can not speak for all people. I can not speak for all Europeans. I can't
>> even speak for all Brits. However, most people I know would not fly to the
>> US simply to shop. When they do go to the US on holiday (for example, I
have
>> relatives in New York and often go to Florida on holiday) they will shop
for
>> things.
>>
>> When people I know go to [Insert European Destination Here] on Holiday,
they
>> will often shop for things as well.
>>
>> Isn't it strange.
>>
>> Also, we actually do have shopping malls here in Europe.
>>
>> What a wonderful world we live in.
>
>I believe there may even be shopping malls in China now too !
>
>I wonder if BAH and unsettled still think the Chinese all go round still in
Mao
>style suits ?

You were showing a little bit of thinking ability. And then
you had to wipe this line across my TTY.

/BAH
From: jmfbahciv on
In article <t9lmk29qp6402rq9vdiuh88so14e4kt4uo(a)4ax.com>,
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP(a)interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
>On Fri, 03 Nov 06 14:00:54 GMT, the renowned jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>
>>In article <454B3D79.250DEEA6(a)hotmail.com>,
>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>> >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >The last thing I'd fancy after a long flight is shopping !
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I observed this behaviour when we went to China. Our tour
>>>> >> groups were upper middle class people. We arrived at the
>>>> >> Great Wall and the shopaholics turned left to go into the
>>>> >> store while we turned right to go on the Great Wall and walk
>>>> >> a little bit of it. These people never saw the Great Wall.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> They went half-way around the world and didn't even bother to
>>>> >> look at a remarkable feat of the human species.
>>>> >
>>>> >Americans ???
>>>>
>>>> Not all were. I think this had more to do with people who had
>>>> new money. It was certainly a lesson to me about people who
>>>> don't know how work gets done.
>>>
>>>I can't imagine what goes through their minds.
>>
>>Oh, I can imagine. A good example is this thread.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> That part of the Wall was amazing. We climbed it and walked it.
>>>> JMF has fear of heights. He wanted to go on (est. angle of
>>>> some of walk was >45 degrees). I looked back and then had to
>>>> look _down_. I figured I'd have to carry him back if we went any
>>>> further.
>>>
>>>I'm glad you enjoyed it.
>>>
>>>My time on mainland China was really just involved with business in the
>>Shenzhen
>>>area. I'd like to see more though.
>>
>>I'm going to get up and look it up. I don't know where that
>>area is.
>
>It's a commuter train (subway-style) ride from Hong Kong.

Thank you. No wonder I didn't know the name and couldn't
find it in my maps.

>A SEZ just
>on the other side of the boundary, but it's bigger than HK now (in
>size and population).

The city that was real interesting when we went in the 80s was
Shanghai. I think they were the field test for China's flavor
of capitalism.
>
>>>I do like Hong Kong big time though !
>>
>>Hong Kong was a amazing when were there. I don't know how
>>it has changed since China took it over, though.
>>
>>/BAH
>
>It's just about ten years now! As more companies go in directly,
>they're losing a bit of the middleman and financial center/re status
>to other Chinese cities, so their growth is nowwhere near as rapid as
>the rest of China, but they are holding their own.

Good. There was a potential for a huge mess there.

> The shopping there
>is nothing special, cheaper prices can be found in the US.

REally? How about labor? Can you still buy stuff cheaper
if the thingie involves labor? I'm thinking of custom-made
suits and shoes.

> Compared to
>more socialist places such as the US and Europe and China their
>taxation regime is remarkably favorable, particularly to the well-off.

If you want your country to be successful and thrive, you have
to be kind to your wealthy.

/BAH
From: unsettled on
Eeyore wrote:

>
> unsettled wrote:

>>But then you're just a camel jockey, what would you know.

> And you're an ignorant jerk.

> Graham

Finally! An admission.

From: unsettled on
Eeyore wrote:

>
> unsettled wrote:
>
>
>>Eeyore distorts as only a Muslim can:
>>
>>>unsettled wrote:
>>>
>>>>Eeyore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Have you already forgotten the reason for the Arab Embargo ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes. I don't remember all the details.
>>>>>
>>>>>It was because of western backing of Israel. Sound familiar ? Truth is that
>>>>>Israel is the number one messmaker in the region.
>>>>
>>>>Now I know for sure you're a displaced camel jockey.
>>>
>>>
>>>And I know for sure that you haven't the tiniest clue about history.
>>>
>>>" The 1973 oil crisis first began on October 17, 1973 when the Organization of
>>>Arab Petroleum Exporting Countries (OAPEC), consisting of the Arab members of
>>>OPEC plus Egypt and Syria, announced as a result of the ongoing Yom Kippur War,
>>>that they would no longer ship petroleum to nations that had supported Israel in
>>>its conflict with Syria and Egypt. This included the United States and its allies
>>>in Western Europe. "
>>>
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Oil_Embargo
>>>
>>>It's no secret what happened.
>>
>>It must be pathological stupidity with you.
>>
>>"The war began on the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur with a surprise joint
>>attack by Egypt and Syria crossing the cease-fire lines in the Sinai and
>>Golan Heights, respectively"
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War
>>
>>So the arabs start another war, they lose, *again*, then
>>in a fit of pique punish the US, and here some 30+ years
>>later you're supporting the Arab posture?
>>
>>Pathological all right. You're a camel jockey all right!
>
>
> Did I say anywhere that it was 'fair' or 'equitable' ?
>
> I'm simply pointing out the factual reasons for the 1973 oil embargo.
>
> Do you want to rewrite history ?

No, I'd like for the likes of you to breathe, live in,
and support the culture in which you live.
From: unsettled on
jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote:

> In article <I7I2h.500$Mw.369(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>>news:eifeh1$8qk_004(a)s820.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...
>>
>>>What counts with measuring the effectiveness of any social program
>>>is the individual stories, not the cut and dried percentages
>>>of service delivery counts.
>>
>>And yet you prefer to believe impersonal books when learning about what
>>Islam is all about, instead of talking to actual Muslims.
>
>
> What do you suggest? I'm reading about their history. Am I
> supposed to wait until I can talk to those who are long dead
> before I learn about the history of that area? Islam
> did not keep history records other than who studied under whom.
>
>
>>Your hypocrisy on
>>this issue suggests that you don't intrinsically prefer one or the other
>>(anecdotes or data), but rather in any given situation, you just pick and
>>choose what you believe by how well it supports your assumptions and
>>preconceived notions. Nice.
>
>
> It's an odd behaviour where the very people who suffer a mental
> aberrration claim that their opposites have the problem.

Unfortunately it is common on usenet, not so much in
realtime FtF.