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From: Charlie E. on 20 Feb 2010 17:42 On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:07:32 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:42:27 -0800, "Joel Koltner" ><zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>Thinking back, at the time a desktop PC still cost the equivalent of perhaps >>30 college textbooks. Today, a reasonable laptop is perhaps all of 5...! > >My first 386 with a 387 co-processor cost me around $4K, and it was a >clone (~1987) > > ...Jim Thompson I have found that I almost always have a budget of $1K when I get a new computer. My first C64, with disk drive and printer, was about that, although I got about $300 in rebates. My first PC, the 8088, was $1050. My next 486 machine was probably around $900, and my next two compaqs were around a grand. Even this laptop was only $1100... Charlie
From: Charlie E. on 20 Feb 2010 19:14 On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:38:08 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Joel Koltner wrote: >> "Vladimir Vassilevsky" <nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message >> news:x_GdnbNeQpvYmuLWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>> So-called "double soup": dissolve two packs of dry noodle soup in the >>> amount of water intended for one pack (that's why it was called >>> "double"), add some potatoes and whatever else you may have, then boil >>> it until it will be a uniform kasha. >> >> Wow; that is meager. I'm glad you made it with your health intact! How >> long ago was that? >> >>> Did you make tea with a pair of razor blades? >> >> No, I surely didn't. Please elaborate on how it's done? >> >> When I lived in the dorms at university's (1990-1994), you were required >> to buy a meal plan from the university's cafeterias -- they had various >> plans available, from "borderline-anorexic jockey" to "linebacker." >> These days many schools have switched some or all of their own >> cafeterias over to the nationwide fast food franchises -- Subwauy, Pizza >> Hut, etc. Kinda sad; to some degree it reflects the fact that tuition >> and books are so incredibly expensive these days in the first place, >> food is now comparatively quite cheap. (I also suspect that there's no >> remaining major college today that doesn't have a Starbucks within ready >> walking distance of campus. :-) ) >> > >But they can't make you live and eat on campus, can they? I rarely >frequented the cantinas of our university. They were cheap but not much >cheaper than cooking your own meals and the food there was not exactly >gourmet quality. > >IMHO it is an important aspect of off-campus living that one gets >exposed to a larger spread of people and not just academic types. When I got my BS back in the 70s, the college required you to at least get a 7 meal plan, even if you lived off campus or had a kitchen on campus. It just went in the cost of college. My cheap meal of choice was beans and franks. Since I could cook, this was pretty good... ;-) Charlie
From: Joerg on 20 Feb 2010 20:06 Charlie E. wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:38:08 -0800, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> Joel Koltner wrote: >>> "Vladimir Vassilevsky" <nospam(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message >>> news:x_GdnbNeQpvYmuLWnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >>>> So-called "double soup": dissolve two packs of dry noodle soup in the >>>> amount of water intended for one pack (that's why it was called >>>> "double"), add some potatoes and whatever else you may have, then boil >>>> it until it will be a uniform kasha. >>> Wow; that is meager. I'm glad you made it with your health intact! How >>> long ago was that? >>> >>>> Did you make tea with a pair of razor blades? >>> No, I surely didn't. Please elaborate on how it's done? >>> >>> When I lived in the dorms at university's (1990-1994), you were required >>> to buy a meal plan from the university's cafeterias -- they had various >>> plans available, from "borderline-anorexic jockey" to "linebacker." >>> These days many schools have switched some or all of their own >>> cafeterias over to the nationwide fast food franchises -- Subwauy, Pizza >>> Hut, etc. Kinda sad; to some degree it reflects the fact that tuition >>> and books are so incredibly expensive these days in the first place, >>> food is now comparatively quite cheap. (I also suspect that there's no >>> remaining major college today that doesn't have a Starbucks within ready >>> walking distance of campus. :-) ) >>> >> But they can't make you live and eat on campus, can they? I rarely >> frequented the cantinas of our university. They were cheap but not much >> cheaper than cooking your own meals and the food there was not exactly >> gourmet quality. >> >> IMHO it is an important aspect of off-campus living that one gets >> exposed to a larger spread of people and not just academic types. > > When I got my BS back in the 70s, the college required you to at least > get a 7 meal plan, even if you lived off campus or had a kitchen on > campus. It just went in the cost of college. My cheap meal of choice > was beans and franks. Since I could cook, this was pretty good... ;-) > I went to the Tuesday farmers market every week, got milk and eggs fresh from a local farmer (yep, non-pasteurized milk fresh from the cows), made my own yoghurt, brewed beer and cooked up a storm almost every night. About the only thing I just warmed up was Bami Goreng because the local butcher made a really good one. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: JosephKK on 20 Feb 2010 22:37 On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 14:42:09 -0800, Charlie E. <edmondson(a)ieee.org> wrote: >On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 18:07:32 -0700, Jim Thompson ><To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > >>On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:42:27 -0800, "Joel Koltner" >><zapwireDASHgroups(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>>Thinking back, at the time a desktop PC still cost the equivalent of perhaps >>>30 college textbooks. Today, a reasonable laptop is perhaps all of 5...! >> >>My first 386 with a 387 co-processor cost me around $4K, and it was a >>clone (~1987) >> >> ...Jim Thompson >I have found that I almost always have a budget of $1K when I get a >new computer. My first C64, with disk drive and printer, was about >that, although I got about $300 in rebates. My first PC, the 8088, >was $1050. My next 486 machine was probably around $900, and my next >two compaqs were around a grand. Even this laptop was only $1100... > >Charlie I am generally from $1000 to $1500 with a few excursions to $2000. I am trying to hit the middle of the knee in the price curve.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 21 Feb 2010 02:47
"Charlie E." wrote: > > When my wife went back to college in the '80s we had a word processor > on our C64 that she used with an Star dot matrix to do her school > work. it was definitely NOT WYSIWYG, but it was a lot better than > typing! I liked Speedscript for the C64, SX64 & C128. Not fancy, but easy to use. On the 128 you saved the program as the first file on a floppy, then used the 'Shift' & 'Run' keys to load & run the first program on a disk. -- Greed is the root of all eBay. |